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11-23-2017 , 10:16 PM
So when Mueller flips enough people and its beyond dispute Trump is an actual traitorous felon, and Congress responds by holding hearings about Hillary, nothing bad actually happens to Trump, right?
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11-23-2017 , 10:28 PM
you would assume so, especially if Mueller is gathering string on Pence too

or maybe the Republicans want President Paul Ryan? who knows
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11-24-2017 , 05:48 AM
The Trump tweet saying yup I'm a racist and that's what will MAGA is beyond the pale even for him.
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11-24-2017 , 09:31 AM
Is it still up? I️ assumed it would be deleted and reposted within an hour or two.

Beyond absurd. For any normal human being that would be a career ender, and rightfully so.
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11-24-2017 , 10:00 AM
Absolutely nothing is beyond the pale for him. Literally nothing.
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11-24-2017 , 10:01 AM
What's the blue stuff she is drinking in this video?

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11-24-2017 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mw828
Is it still up? I️ assumed it would be deleted and reposted within an hour or two.

Beyond absurd. For any normal human being that would be a career ender, and rightfully so.
Still up yes.
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11-24-2017 , 01:16 PM
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What's the blue stuff she is drinking in this video?

My guess is Windex or Romulan Ale.
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11-24-2017 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
The Trump tweet saying yup I'm a racist and that's what will MAGA is beyond the pale even for him.
What was the actual tweet?
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11-24-2017 , 02:27 PM
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11-24-2017 , 02:34 PM
I would love to see a reporter ask Gregg Popovich if he thinks that Trump doesn't tweet about him because he is white.
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11-25-2017 , 09:01 PM
Watch the Axelrod interview with Steve Kerr on CNN. LOLOLOLOL at Steve Kerr haters. Give me a POP/Kerr ticket now. Confirmed mancrush.
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11-26-2017 , 12:48 PM
We live in a world where ‘Vote for a child molester because the alternative is a LIBERAL’ has become an acceptable argument
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11-26-2017 , 12:54 PM
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We live in a world where ‘Vote for a child molester because the alternative is a LIBERAL’ has become an acceptable argument

Disgusting, reckless, vile trash. I can only hope that the response is long lasting and full of shaming and shunning that from society.
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11-26-2017 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SirOsis
Watch the Axelrod interview with Steve Kerr on CNN. LOLOLOLOL at Steve Kerr haters. Give me a POP/Kerr ticket now. Confirmed mancrush.
https://www.popovichkerr2020.com/

I got.a t-shirt
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11-26-2017 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
Disgusting, reckless, vile trash. I can only hope that the response is long lasting and full of shaming and shunning that from society.
What's worse is he was ALREADY unelectable by a rational electorate.
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11-26-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
Disgusting, reckless, vile trash. I can only hope that the response is long lasting and full of shaming and shunning that from society.
Spoiler:
it won't be
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11-26-2017 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
What's worse is he was ALREADY unelectable by a rational electorate.
They aren't being irrational, though. They just have very different preferences. When all you care about is white supremacy, defiance of rule of law in service of white supremacy isn't some sort of failing, it's desirable. Did George Wallace become unelectable by defying integration orders? That's exactly what his constituents wanted!
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11-26-2017 , 06:18 PM
I think he meant rational as in reasonable, non-deplorable human beings.
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11-27-2017 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
What's worse is he was ALREADY unelectable by a rational electorate.
There was, already, a slight chance he wasn't going to win. Not certain why I'm defending them.
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11-27-2017 , 04:01 PM
Incredible.

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11-27-2017 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
They aren't being irrational, though. They just have very different preferences. When all you care about is white supremacy, defiance of rule of law in service of white supremacy isn't some sort of failing, it's desirable. Did George Wallace become unelectable by defying integration orders? That's exactly what his constituents wanted!
TNC made this point in one of the essays in his new book, introducing "The Case for Reparations" - that while we've accused rural whites of "voting against their interests" for a long time, we haven't considered that maybe they were getting exactly what they were interested in:

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The final thing that got me was the vaguely insulting way that "rising tide" rhetoric addressed the masses of whites. The presumption that they had, for centuries, acted "against their interests" struck me as saying that these whites had been, for generations, so gullible as to be fooled by a prejudice that paid no dividends. When rich Hollywood actors supported higher taxes, no one criticized them for "acting against their interests", presumably because paying higher taxes aligns with those wealthy actors' vision of the world as they would like it to be. Could it also be true that the masses of poorer whites might support lowering those same taxes for the rich in response to a different vision of the world? What if it was true that the masses of white Americans had not been fooled at all but that a critical mass of them had simply identified with a set of "interests" that were not purely economic and so powerful that they overawed the class interests that liberals and leftists presumed should be broadly shared?

In fact, I knew of such a set of interests—one so powerful that it brought on a war that killed more Americans than every other American war combined.
re: the bolded - "a prejudice that paid no dividends" - he made the point elsewhere in the book (can't find the passage atm) that rather than voting against their economic interests for the good feels of ****ing over minorities, white votes for racism actually paid off quite handsomely in reducing their competition for jobs and increasing their slice of the societal pie. Whatever poor whites lost in the war between poor and rich by voting for racism, they more than gained in the war between black and white.
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11-27-2017 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
TNC made this point in one of the essays in his new book, introducing "The Case for Reparations" - that while we've accused rural whites of "voting against their interests" for a long time, we haven't considered that maybe they were getting exactly what they were interested in:



re: the bolded - "a prejudice that paid no dividends" - he made the point elsewhere in the book (can't find the passage atm) that rather than voting against their economic interests for the good feels of ****ing over minorities, white votes for racism actually paid off quite handsomely in reducing their competition for jobs and increasing their slice of the societal pie. Whatever poor whites lost in the war between poor and rich by voting for racism, they more than gained in the war between black and white.

I think that's a step too far. as imperfect as things are for black people, this is also the best time in American history to be a black person. we're a year removed from an 8 year presidency by a POC, that's a worst case scenario for that master plan
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11-27-2017 , 04:48 PM
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I think that's a step too far. as imperfect as things are for black people, this is also the best time in American history to be a black person.
I don't think that's incompatible with the idea that whites received plenty of dividends from their votes for racism over the years that we tend to dismiss as having been "against their self-interest".

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we're a year removed from an 8 year presidency by a POC, that's a worst case scenario for that master plan
As long as I'm posting TNC quotes - the quote in the previous post was from an essay that directly followed Fear of a Black President which had some interesting things to say about the limitations of being America's first black president and the devil's bargain Obama had to make to achieve it (from earlier in this article, "acceptance depends not just on being twice as good but on being half as black"):

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So frightening is the prospect of black rage given voice and power that when Obama was a freshman senator, he was asked, on national television, to denounce the rage of Harry Belafonte. This fear continued with demands that he keep his distance from Louis Farrakhan and culminated with Reverend Wright and a presidency that must never betray any sign of rage toward its white opposition.

Thus the myth of “twice as good” that makes Barack Obama possible also smothers him. It holds that African Americans—enslaved, tortured, raped, discriminated against, and subjected to the most lethal homegrown terrorist movement in American history—feel no anger toward their tormentors.
Kinda hard to distill it down to a single quote, the whole article is really good.
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11-27-2017 , 04:52 PM
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Incredible.

onion or real?
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