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Old 09-08-2017, 01:05 PM   #39026
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Hoya, it's been a while since this discussion, but if you get a moment, could you provide just a couple paragraphs of thoughts on affirmative action, especially as it relates to Asian Americans being limited and rejected even with superior qualifications, due to apparent (even if not explicit) quotas and limits? TIA.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:29 PM   #39027
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Wouldn't quotas simply be illegal?
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:11 PM   #39028
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De facto quotas exist ~everywhere in academic admissions.
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Old 09-09-2017, 04:05 AM   #39029
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The BEST wishes, I tell ya.
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:42 PM   #39030
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Old 09-11-2017, 12:29 PM   #39031
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I saw but did not read the NYTimes article about Trump "the dynamic independent" or something wretch-inducing, but really enjoyed this Slate comparison to historical "maybe Hitler will be OK" stories:

You Know Who Else Was Always Impressing Journalists With His Newfound Maturity and Pragmatism?

Money cite of a 1932 NYTimes hottake:

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It is beyond doubt that, as the party is moving toward power, the sharp edges of many of its views are becoming blunt. Even though Adolf Hitler refused to submit to cross-examination the other day on the ground that the lawyer of his opponent was a Jew his speeches no longer bristle with pointed references to the anti-Semitic cause. He lately went so far in his repudiation of racial exclusiveness as to assert in a public statement that, “against honest Jews we have nothing to say.”
If anyone here actually read the Times' story...was it as bad as I assume?
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:36 PM   #39032
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This thread is moving pretty slowly. I'd like to see Shark Sandwich show up and offer a summary of how the Trump presidency is going so far.
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:48 PM   #39033
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Libtards are still rustled so obviously it's been a success
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:52 PM   #39034
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I think Elizabeth Warren would be a great president. She seems like she understands the financial markets well.

(is that enough of a CDLBot bat signal?)
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:39 PM   #39035
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This thread is moving pretty slowly. I'd like to see Shark Sandwich show up and offer a summary of how the Trump presidency is going so far.
Sando got his SRM ban, so all is well.
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:01 PM   #39036
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Discussion topic: For the presidency, straight up popular vote should be implemented over electoral college. This would be better for 2 main reasons: 1. It lowers the threshold necessary for 3rd parties to be competitive and 2. It means that all votes count. In the current system, rando repubs in upstate New York or Dems in Alabama don't even bother to vote because their votes are meaningless.

For congressional districts, at least a portion of the total seats for given state should be up to popular vote across the whole state so that the effects of gerrymandering are suppressed.
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:07 PM   #39037
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Thread will probably get revved up when the tax cut negotiations blow up in spectacular fashion.
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:10 PM   #39038
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They are planning to repeal estate tax via reconciliation, which should go just swimmingly
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Old 09-13-2017, 01:32 PM   #39039
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Koch Bros must be getting a wee bit angry. What return have they actually received on the prodigious investments in politics that would not have been obtained anyway (i.e. there was a critical mass of Dem support)?
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Old 09-13-2017, 02:59 PM   #39040
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Prob the institutional decay of state Dept, EPA, Dept of energy etc.
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Old 09-13-2017, 03:50 PM   #39041
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That is true. What a bargain.

GOP: If you let our buddies in the oil/mining/forestry industry poison your water we will do everything we can to ensure you don't have to live with brown people.

GOP Voters: Sounds good.
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:59 AM   #39042
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Hickenlooper just now on Bernie's Medicare-4-All: Need to pursue "other avenues" that can get Republican support. IOW, meet 'em half way and that will pave the road to UHC. Just string 'em along with small bets they'll never see it coming.

I'm picturing George McFly folding every hand to Biff heads up. Is there a politics version of Play Poker Like the Pros all of these reach-across-the-aisle Dems are reading?
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:15 PM   #39043
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No. Their donors don't want to pay the taxes required, either. They have to come up with something plausible enough to keep people who want UHC voting for them.
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:46 PM   #39044
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I, for one, am truly enjoying the Hillary Clinton publicity tour. There's just something charming about a book people hate without reading. Thousands of Amazon reviews removed, Martin Shkreli imprisoned for requesting minions steal her hair, and I'm never even going to read the book! This must be what Woody feels like on a good day.
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Old 09-14-2017, 04:00 PM   #39045
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I saw the excerpt of her blaming Bernie promising everyone ponies for her seeming cold and distant when she said we can't afford that. That's enough for me to hate it.

She lost because she took all the work Obama did in key areas for granted, ignored those people, and then was surprised when they voted for someone that acted like he gave a **** about them. It doesn't matter that he doesn't. It matters that he at least pretended to.

I wish she would take all her money and go retire somewhere outside of the spotlight. I don't have time for the second worst candidate to ever have a real run at the Presidency to go on a tour blaming everyone except herself. You blew it for all of us. You ran against literally Trump and couldn't convince people to vote for you where it mattered. I will always despise you for that. I say that as someone that voted for her.
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Old 09-14-2017, 04:38 PM   #39046
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Lol
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Old 09-14-2017, 04:48 PM   #39047
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I don't know man, I think that's a fair take but if there's something glaringly incorrect there I'm open to hearing about it and correcting myself.
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Old 09-14-2017, 06:33 PM   #39048
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You read one bit of an entire book and are leaping to conclusions. She blames herself for some things and other people for other things.
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:25 PM   #39049
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not a cult though:

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Old 09-15-2017, 09:08 AM   #39050
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Didn't read it all but the excerpt that made me the saddest was that they watch a bunch of ****ty network dramas and that bill thinks NCIS:LA is his favorite
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