Likelihood that Ikes hits 100k posts before joining Mexicans and Muslims on the list of things banned because of Trump?

I, for one, appreciate Rep. Hunter's vape shenanigans and find them entirely appropriate.

That guy vaping at a congressional hearing has me rolling. I had not seen that before.

i keep reading that establishment repubs hate trump. do they HAVE to let him run for their party?

i don't get how that works

So I think they basically do have to let him run, but the defense mechanism for disliked people has traditionally been "the party/powers that will coalesce around a more favored candidate anyways, so ain't no thang"

But now the reality seems to be that the Republican elites/powers that be are either much less united and/or much less powerful than they used to be. Or, the Republican party hardly exists at this point.

All that said the Party still needs to approve his VP choice

I don't think the leadership cares that much. Trump is a Democrat wearing Republican make up but he's someone they feel they can make deals with and he's certainly better than Hillary, Bernie, or Cruz from their point of view. The guy the establishment hates with the fires of a thousand suns is Cruz.

1. They seem to hate Cruz more.

2. The appearance of democracy is good for the brand. Just naming a dude doesn't go over so well, and changing the rules at this point would be a catastrophe.

Does anyone have a guess as to how much follow through there will be from Hillary on more extensive banking regulation and breaking up the banks? She talks a big game and all with the "Obama took more money from Wall Street than anyone ever and then passed extensive regulation," but I don't know if she follows through on that like Obama because I am not sure she has the same principles there. My sense is that there will be very little, but its hard for me to tell because she's saying the opposite.

I am also getting a sense that there could be some of this from TRUMP, but its more of a gut reaction due to the fact that he isn't, and hasn't been for some time, some great relationship for them and vice versa. He definitely isn't campaigning on it, but it feels like it would be on the table.

Complete outsider makes Presidential bid with zero support from both public and party.

Builds entire campaign against the most important issue for the establishment donor class in the most emphatic way possible: build wall.

For good measure, also fires shots at party sacred cows of Wall Street, Federal Reserve, capital gains taxes, health insurance industry, Fox News, and Israel.

Withstands $200 million in party financing against him with pure alpha and the power of his supporters and their donations of the maximum requested amount: $0.

Stomps primaries; on road to nomination because party isn't rigged by superdelegates.

Conclusion: Appearance of democracy

CDL,

I think it is reasonable to conclude that Hillary will pass banking regulation ranging from moderate to extensive. That legislation will be written word-for-word by the biggest banks in the world who love regulations because it makes it much harder for smaller banks to compete with them.

So yes, she will pander to the people and speak about "Regulating Wall Street" but what she will really do is eliminate competition from the biggest banks under the guise of regulation.

But I've been assured by several leading lights of both the conservative and liberal establishment that Trump is LITERALLY HITLER, so I think we can safely say democracy is dead here.

I wouldn't say big banks love legislation/regulation but you're correct that smaller banks sort of get left in the dust whether it be at the review and comment stage or at the implementation stage due to resources. Big players on buy side have more sway too

Bush on promising to curtail the process of sending our troops around the world circa 2000. I think the record is self explanatory here.


Barry promised the most transparent administration ever and proceeded to: Concurrently under the sub heading titled some pigs are more equal than others - Orwell comma George

Just for lulz from the same Barry bit at the Laugh Factory, erm I mean speech:

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My general world view is when a candidate vehemently declares something that is a net positive for humanity, it's a pretty much a mortal lock the exact opposite will take place. Act accordingly.

Put another way; this.

Not quite the way I would have done it but still good.

Anyone want to lay 1.5:1 on a potential Hillary v. Trump GE matchup? Provision of no bet if one of them dies/gets indicted/is incapacitated (e.g. Hillary strokes out on stage)

The nomination process of either party is not and has never been democratic -- party insiders are given considerably more power than the average person including full delegate votes just for themselves -- and Trump's onetime success does not disprove that.

The Party hated Reagan too.

Nobody thinks the primaries are democratic. However, the will of the people matters. It's not predetermined - at least not on the Republican side.

They don't have control over their people like that.

Interested in this. I'd do like upto my $750 vs your $500.

My only worry is that at this point, given all the action you have, there seems like a non-zero chance that you might be freerolling everyone and would just disappear from 2p2 if you lost. Nothing personal.

Can anyone confirm that you at least seem like a guy who should be able to handle losing all your bets?

Not a fan of potential 8 month escrows either.

I'll do the full amount here contingent on you performing your due diligence re: me not being a scumbag. Offer expires 9 pm tonight.

No bet if neither is the major party nominee, no bet if one is dead, medically incapacitated, or has to drop out due to indictment prior to the election

Also LenC, enough people here have my IRL info that I'd be pretty easy to track down in the event of skullduggery

Hard to know exactly what you mean by "disprove" or what exactly would even qualify, but are you saying that Trump's candidacy is not at least slightly MORE democratic than the status quo? Asking from the perspective of someone who has been repeatedly assured a trump presidency is the end of democracy.

Alright, screw it. Guess objectively, you'll be taking a chance on an EASTERN EUROPEAN too.

My $750 to your $500, no escrow, I agree to all the stipulations in posts #3891 and #3895.

By current lines it's 41% not to even happen and we'll find out soon enough.

Quote to book.

edit: I'd be paying and hoping to receive via PayPal fwiw.

Booked

Pretty good. For better or for worse the guy is gonna be our next president so doesn't make much sense to not try and be optimistic. IN TRUMP WE TRUST.