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08-24-2017 , 10:16 PM
How is that any different than districts where the Dems can win simply by running a candidate on anti guns and welfare? It may not be right, but it's the system in place
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08-24-2017 , 11:10 PM
"and welfare" lol
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08-25-2017 , 08:06 PM
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08-25-2017 , 09:04 PM
Gorka out too...freaking revolving door of racists
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08-25-2017 , 09:05 PM
Drumpf just straight mashing the keypad
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08-25-2017 , 09:34 PM
Trump's reaction when asked if he had a message for people in the path of the hurricane was a dopey, uncomfortable thumbs-up and "Good luck." The guy has no hope of even pretending to give a **** about people.
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08-26-2017 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SirOsis
Trump's reaction when asked if he had a message for people in the path of the hurricane was a dopey, uncomfortable thumbs-up and "Good luck." The guy has no hope of even pretending to give a **** about people.

Oh brother, slow Trump news day....
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08-26-2017 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Losing all
Oh brother, slow Trump news day....
Not really. I thought it might get lost behind the other stupid **** he did today that seems to be dominating the news. Anyway it was weak stuff from a president. He was like a rich dad responding to his son who just yelled "Hey dad, watch me make this putt!"
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08-26-2017 , 06:20 AM
John Kelly doesn't seem to care for a clown show and is cleaning house. Too bad for him the biggest clown is his boss but maybe Trump will be kept under control somewhat if all the little clowns around him are sent packing.
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08-26-2017 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
Deeply nauseating. And now I've invited that CPHoya sumbitch over here to say "I told you so."
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08-26-2017 , 12:09 PM
He should not have been pardon, but still much less nauseating than all of the pardons granted by Obama to coke/heroin dealers
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08-26-2017 , 12:12 PM
Yeah guys, don't you see that racist abuse of Latino people just isn't that bad?
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08-26-2017 , 12:14 PM
Because that's what I said
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08-26-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by xnbomb
He should not have been pardon, but still much less nauseating than all of the pardons granted by Obama to coke/heroin dealers
Just no. It's not just a "he shouldn't have been pardoned" issue, it's a rule of law issue and equivocating it is a clown move.
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08-26-2017 , 12:31 PM
how did I equivocate anything there? It's a pretty straight forward sentence.

Should he have been pardoned? No (check)

Is this "nauseating" when compared to pardons and commutations granted by other administrations? No, not really. I even gave you a specific type of case that you should find more nauseating! (check)

The fact that its a rule of law issue doesn't negate that fact.
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08-26-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by xnbomb
how did I equivocate anything there? It's a pretty straight forward sentence.

Should he have been pardoned? No (check)

Is this "nauseating" when compared to pardons and commutations granted by other administrations? No, not really. I even gave you a specific type of case that you should find more nauseating! (check)

The fact that its a rule of law issue doesn't negate that fact.
drugs = BAD (check)
systematic and institutionalized racism= meh (check)
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08-26-2017 , 12:50 PM
Again, because that's what I said
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08-26-2017 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by xnbomb
Again, because that's what I said
what part of "I even gave you a specific type of case that you should find more nauseating! (check)" doesn't mean you think that the drug offense pardon is worse?

the simple answer is that most of us are not going to agree with that point. Emboldening law enforcement to racial profile ethnic communities is significantly "more nauseating" than allowing some people that were serving disproportionately long sentences for possession to get out of prison.
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08-26-2017 , 12:56 PM
He pardoned a racist for a misdemeanor. lol can't even use his trump card correctly. and in the process put every gop legislator between another racial rock and a hard place, as if that makes things easier. Oh yeah and the judges are sure to appreciate this move before sentencing. another lol gambit. Even without comparing racists vs drug dealers, this administration is a complete horror show compared to almost any other presidency, with the notable exception of jefferson davis.
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08-26-2017 , 12:56 PM
Enough of that for a few days.
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08-26-2017 , 12:56 PM
No guys, you just don't get what he's saying. He's clearly saying something-- different.
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08-26-2017 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xnbomb
how did I equivocate anything there? It's a pretty straight forward sentence.

Should he have been pardoned? No (check)

Is this "nauseating" when compared to pardons and commutations granted by other administrations? No, not really. I even gave you a specific type of case that you should find more nauseating! (check)

The fact that its a rule of law issue doesn't negate that fact.
There being no rule of law is what I find nauseating. What don't you get?

President lunatic demonstrating he'll pardon anyone who pursues his policy goals even through racist means, repeatedly ruled unconstitutional to the point that a sheriff is convicted of contempt of court, and actually being able to do so before the guy is even *sentenced* is straight banana republic ****.

As Hoya has stated, in great detail, our system isn't built to contain a diseased maniac in charge, and he's obviously going to try to take advantage of every lack of control.

Your comparison completely misses the point. That's what makes it equivocating. Hope that helps.
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08-26-2017 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
President lunatic demonstrating he'll pardon anyone who pursues his policy goals even through racist means, repeatedly ruled unconstitutional to the point that a sheriff is convicted of contempt of court, and actually being able to do so before the guy is even *sentenced* is straight banana republic ****.


Donald Trump just told the entire country that as long as he likes what you're doing as a public official, it doesn't matter if you break the law or ignore court orders, you won't face repercussions. That is way, way worse than letting some guys that sold drugs out of jail early! That gets to the very foundation of our democracy!
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08-26-2017 , 03:17 PM
it's as if he thinks to himself: what would Putin do?


of course he's far too oafish to even be an effective fascist
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08-26-2017 , 04:12 PM
Hoya do you think arapio and others charged with "minor" crimes should have the right to trial by jury?

I read up on the case a bit but was hard to find tons of info.
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