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08-14-2017 , 02:47 PM
and btw on the Nazi stuff, Trump again showed how inept he is. If he says what he said today on Saturday, he comes out this looking good, better than he looked 24 hours before. Instead he waits 2 days after botching his initial statement, and now he experiences the downside of looking like a Nazi for 2 days AND he still has to denounce all his racist followers. lose/lose
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08-14-2017 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
I think about this a lot. I think there's a lot of us who are now in our late 20s who grew up in a very white, very male type of online culture where edgy 4chan comedy, constant use of [gay slur] and [racial slur] ('Louis CK told me I could tho!'), pseudo-ironic racism, not-even-pretending-to-be-ironic sexism ('tits or gtfo', 'try hitting her'), 'SJW' bashing, anti political correctness, etc etc was the default mode of conversation.

And over time all that stuff became less funny, and the ironic racism became less ironic, and the real world consequences of all that bull**** started to became apparent, and maybe we became older and less socially backward, and one day you have a conversion moment where you say **** all this cancerous toxic bull****.

And the ones who never pulled out of that nosedive are what now comprise the Donald Trump Nazi Meme Army. Getting deeper in a step at a time, and slowly transforming from pro-free speech anti-PC South Park Libertarian to Gamergater to this ****. And several people I've spoken to have a sense of - ****, a little less common sense, a little more racial or sexual resentment, a few more Joe Rogan podcasts, and that could have been me
It's a Stanford prison experiment run as a long term internet trial. The environment matters. If you create a discriminatory environment, the crowds will embrace discrimination.
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08-14-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy
Do you guys really think impeachment is the optimal endgoal of the Mueller investigation?I'm still not convinced that Pence as president > Trump as president

Trump is an idiot and an embarrassment, but he's so inept that he's basically been unable to do much as president so far. Pence has a lot more experience in the political landscape and would probably be better at pushing the R agenda.
What about reading #MAGA related tweets on the day after impeachment and tasting dem sweet tears? You know, the thing that started all of this.
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08-14-2017 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
and btw on the Nazi stuff, Trump again showed how inept he is. If he says what he said today on Saturday, he comes out this looking good, better than he looked 24 hours before. Instead he waits 2 days after botching his initial statement, and now he experiences the downside of looking like a Nazi for 2 days AND he still has to denounce all his racist followers. lose/lose


I've seen this take a lot and I strongly disagree. Trump thinks winking at his Nazi base is better for him than traditional politics. It might not be optimal strategy but it's definitely his strategy and he didn't "botch" it imo.
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08-14-2017 , 03:25 PM
winking is better than traditional politics, but even better is the "both sides" take he tried get away with initially. he definitely was forced to react to the storm around him (Merck CEO quitting on him today was probably the last straw) which is never optimal
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08-14-2017 , 05:23 PM
meanwhile in pog (spoiled b/c pog)

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preliminary word is the ******* who plowed his car into the counterprotesters was doing so as a false flag operation (Trump-hating leftist, not a white supremacist as one would think).

I have no concrete confirmation of this yet. I'll work on it and report back later

even more shocking if true
bunch of people are like ufkinwotm8 and call for a perma, MOD swoops in and..

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Right. Thanks for making me waste my milestone post on this.

This is the post where I draw the line under this ****. You do not call for other posters to be banned. You can PM me and argue for it but not in the thread. You do not call other posters racists. You can think what you like but you do not attack others personally.

Zorkman made a silly attempt at trolling the forum. I have spoken to him and he's currently exiled. I will not be banning him and although I will discuss this with you personally if you wish, i will not discuss it in the thread.
i love the THIS IS WHERE I DRAW THE LINE...STOP CALLING FOR BANS! part
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08-14-2017 , 05:28 PM
Lol Funky Munkey always & forever
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08-14-2017 , 05:34 PM
Zorkman obviously a false-flag false flagger. A liberal pretending to be a conservative false flag truther to make them look bad.
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08-14-2017 , 05:44 PM
MB and another mod presiding over the fall and decline of POG is all you really need to know.
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08-14-2017 , 05:52 PM
Why can't you call other posters racist? Why is calling people racist worse than actual racism?

Call a spade a ****ing spade
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08-14-2017 , 05:54 PM
And to think that they'd be better off with CCatman running the show.
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08-14-2017 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
It's really weird to track the disenchanted white male shut in demographic over the last decade or so. Honestly, the online poker crowd was semi adjacent to these guys about 10 years ago. Back then they were just anime weirdos or video game dudes that morphed into PUA or whatever. But some were just on a bad road.


https://twitter.com/NinaDontPlayMtG/...60306189135873
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08-14-2017 , 07:17 PM
Do you guys remember when Rush Limbaugh said the Deepwater Horizon was actually blown up by environmentalists to create a false flag environmental disaster. Just for the record; this is less of a stretch.
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08-14-2017 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy
Do you guys really think impeachment is the optimal endgoal of the Mueller investigation?I'm still not convinced that Pence as president > Trump as president

Trump is an idiot and an embarrassment, but he's so inept that he's basically been unable to do much as president so far. Pence has a lot more experience in the political landscape and would probably be better at pushing the R agenda.
There's a real downside to having a president you can't even let talk to boy scouts, ffs. I don't even want to think about what he'd say to girl scouts.
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08-14-2017 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Perhaps Shimmy
Do you guys really think impeachment is the optimal endgoal of the Mueller investigation?I'm still not convinced that Pence as president > Trump as president

Trump is an idiot and an embarrassment, but he's so inept that he's basically been unable to do much as president so far. Pence has a lot more experience in the political landscape and would probably be better at pushing the R agenda.
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Preferring President Pence is like saying you prefer the same (and probably more) overt discrimination with less bombastic and more tact
nukes tho.

we draw from the deck every day and the trump death card is in there somewhere. chances of mass death under pence <<<<<<<<<< chances of mass death under trump.

pence would probably be worse on the domestic side, yeah, but that is dwarfed by trump being an impulsive lunatic with nuclear weapons at his disposal.
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08-14-2017 , 07:37 PM
Agreed.
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08-14-2017 , 08:01 PM
I think your feeling on Pence becoming President resides largely in how seriously you take the threat of war.

I don't think it's that serious at all honestly. I expect that he may well say something stupid, but I'd be floored if the intelligence communities in most of the world's major powers weren't already working around him. Most governments probably correctly believe he's a moron and do whatever they can to bypass him.

If you think the threat is real, then yeah, Pence is a no brainer, but boy is he going to be bad for the LGBTQ community or anyone non-white and non-religious.
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08-14-2017 , 08:06 PM
Yeah, count me on team "Pence is a disaster but at least he can be trusted with the nuclear launch codes."
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08-14-2017 , 08:06 PM
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nukes tho.

we draw from the deck every day and the trump death card is in there somewhere. chances of mass death under pence <<<<<<<<<< chances of mass death under trump.

pence would probably be worse on the domestic side, yeah, but that is dwarfed by trump being an impulsive lunatic with nuclear weapons at his disposal.
Reconcile this belief with the idea that impeachment is a slow process and we will be stuck for months with an unhinged narcissist who doesn't understand or believe in the role of checks and balances as President and he will know he's at the end of his rope. Add to this that this maniac has millions of fanatical followers. You can already see him and his followers becoming more unhinged as the noose tightens.

We let the terrorist organization (No other way to honestly describe Trump and his followers at this point) take control of the country and Mueller or other establishment methods are unlikely to lead to a clean and tidy endgame if they are even successful at all.
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08-14-2017 , 08:14 PM
Don't misunderstand me, we need to move forward with removing Trump and anyone loyal to him from office as quickly as humanly possible, but I think the way this all goes down is often glossed over and not fully understood in depth. We don't get to just wake up one day and see on the news that all is well and America is cured of this disease. I believe it's important that everyone understand we're in for a fight here. The only question to be determined is what the scope and damage of this fight will end up being, and if its a fight we can actually still win.
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08-14-2017 , 08:21 PM
It's more of addressing an A or B hypothetical proposition. Some will choose A and some B (RT).

That's wholly different than the pragmatic discussion you're having. Him losing a general election is prbly the safest way this goes down, correct. That just leads into whether or not we can trust that Trump will passively allow himself to lose.

It's anxiety everywhere you turn once you stop living in the moment.
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08-14-2017 , 09:13 PM
Is there any other common word or phrase that identifies the user as a moron more efficiently than "false flag"? I guess there's "make America great again".
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08-14-2017 , 09:20 PM
"First Amendment"

"snowflake"

"handout"

"entitlement"

any variation on "I have a friend who is [group]"

"Second Amendment"

"I believe in Conservative values"

"New York Jets"

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"secure our borders"

"take America back"

"poker"

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08-14-2017 , 09:41 PM
"pocket rockets"
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08-14-2017 , 09:53 PM
"Barack Hussien Obama"

"What about building seven"

"_______ was an inside job"
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