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08-13-2017 , 04:59 PM

#38101

goofball

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Obama probably would have been north of 400 electoral votes in 16

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08-13-2017 , 05:00 PM

#38102

ut2010

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Dont think at all Trump beats Obama. Shillary was just an awful candidate.

Plus after eight years usually swings back to the other party afaik.

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08-13-2017 , 05:07 PM

#38103

Riverman

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JFC the GOP nominated and elected Donald ****ing Trump. The burden of proof is not on liberals to prove there is a massive racism problem.

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08-13-2017 , 06:01 PM

#38104

MonsterJMcgee

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Originally Posted by xnbomb

I'm in a town in PA that voted a high percentage for Trump. The day after he won, people were excited. Why? Not because Trump won. Because "we dumb, uneducated white people" won and took down Hilary. So many people were anti Hilary and just fed up with the left and how much they belittled anyone who disagreed with them.

So you and your bros spite voted against liberals instead of being adults and voting on policies you think are good for society.

This is something to be ashamed of.

It's one thing to wrongly think conservative policy is good and an entirely different thing to ignore policy all together and instead vote to harm people you hate or were mean to you once. Maybe grow thicker skin and try to be a better person. There are people whose lives depend on healthcare and other services and you'd rather spend your vote sticking it to smug liberals. Evil behavior.

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08-13-2017 , 06:07 PM

#38105

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Originally Posted by xnbomb

I've never posted ITT and only came here because I read about it in the FAQ. Basically my only concern on this site for politics is trolling the libtards in Politics and P7.

This is probably the best, most reasonable post I've seen from someone that (I'm assuming) leans left. The reason that so many (ie not all) right wingers are going farther right isn't Trump, it's the fact that they're getting blasted for being on the right and for their life experiences.

I'm in a town in PA that voted a high percentage for Trump. The day after he won, people were excited. Why? Not because Trump won. Because "we dumb, uneducated white people" won and took down Hilary. So many people were anti Hilary and just fed up with the left and how much they belittled anyone who disagreed with them.

So, ya, I think woody is spot on here.

Sounds like maybe you need a safe space? Like people should be more politically correct around you?

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08-13-2017 , 06:15 PM

#38106

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Originally Posted by xnbomb

Thanks guys for proving my point.

I did not and would not vote for Trump.

There are many social stances I lean far left on; there are things I used to be right on and now lean left.

There are many social stances that I'm right on, part because of my upbringing that could possibly be changed and part that are based off of information gather throughout my life that will never be changed.

Most non social issues I'm on the right about. Those aren't changing any time soon.

My favorite part of the last year+ is sitting back and watching how people's view points are established and possibly changed. The posts ITT sum up why the Democrats lost and why they will lose again if their message isn't changed. They are pushing away the people that would have won them the election and yet continue to make the same mistakes.

Area man who agrees with Republicans on most issues and says his mind cannot be changed about them finds Democrats unpersuasive.

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08-13-2017 , 06:26 PM

#38107

Victor

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Originally Posted by MonsterJMcgee

ya it is truly detestable. and even worse he is actually proud of such a viewpoint and behavior. absolutely proud that he actively avoids becoming better acquainted with issues and policies and continues to avoid anything that would increase his intelligence.

then he has the audacity to lecture us on how he should be treated as if he would ever change his vote. as if he, and his anti-intellectualism is actually worthy of being catered to.

the height of being cravenly despicable and pomposity.

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08-13-2017 , 06:39 PM

#38108

Wooders0n

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Man you guys are gonna really keep losing

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08-13-2017 , 06:47 PM

#38109

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were libs super lovely to bush voters in the runup to 2008? or did they laugh at them for electing a crap prez and believing stupid things

i dont actually know but i have my suspicions..

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08-13-2017 , 06:48 PM

#38110

xnbomb

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where did I once say I based a vote on what the media or Hilary did?

where did I once say any of these people are my bros?

where did I imply that I have not educated myself before coming to the conclusions I've come to on the issues I lean right on?

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08-13-2017 , 07:24 PM

#38111

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In an interview Saturday night in Toledo, Ohio, with The Associated Press, Samantha Bloom said of her son James Alex Fields Jr., "I just knew he was going to a rally. I mean, I try to stay out of his political views. You know, we don't, you know, I don't really get too involved, I moved him out to his own apartment, so we -- I'm watching his cat."

Bloom was informed by The AP reporter that the rally was indeed organized by white nationalists. "I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump's not a white supremacist," she said.

"He had an African-American friend so ...," she said before her voice trailed off.

lol

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08-13-2017 , 07:29 PM

#38112

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I can't decided which is my favorite line, "I'm watching his cat" or "He had an African-American friend"

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08-13-2017 , 07:34 PM

#38113

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Originally Posted by Riverman

JFC the GOP nominated and elected Donald ****ing Trump. The burden of proof is not on liberals to prove there is a massive racism problem.

Are you mad that they elected Trump, or mad that Trump won the presidency? The GOP was trying to give the election away.

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08-13-2017 , 07:49 PM

#38114

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Why was there not more police on hand to prevent or stop things from getting violent?

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08-13-2017 , 07:50 PM

#38115

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I'm hearing there will be an alt-right rally in Boston on August 19. Doesn't seem like the demographic they should be seeking.

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08-13-2017 , 07:53 PM

#38116

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Originally Posted by Palo

Why was there not more police on hand to prevent or stop things from getting violent?

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/13/us...vYUNVHOG?amp=1

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08-13-2017 , 07:54 PM

#38117

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How do you think things would have gone if a few hundred black dudes started marching down the street with automatic weapons?

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08-13-2017 , 08:02 PM

#38118

425kid

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Yeah its a joke of a response, even if its true that they were outgunned. 3 people died, dozens injured, but the property is fine guys!

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08-13-2017 , 08:34 PM

#38119

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**** all this appealing to the right bull****. There is a historically, objectively correct side to be on here and you don't stray from that to appeal to someone who doesn't understand this fundamental truth. **** em!

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08-13-2017 , 08:46 PM

#38120

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rotesters.html

So good

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08-13-2017 , 08:50 PM

#38121

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Originally Posted by Bdidd

Yeah this is a pretty asinine post. No one ever said to stray from being on the correct side. The entire ****ing point is to show why the correct side is correct. To appeal to it. To let the correctness do the arguing for you and stop with the petty bull**** to appease your ego and feels.

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08-13-2017 , 08:55 PM

#38122

mullen

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Originally Posted by Wooders0n

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rotesters.html

So good

Rekt. Excellent.

Wonder what their apologists will say once they start donning hoods again to protect getting exposed as the pathetic scum they are.

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08-13-2017 , 09:01 PM

#38123

Victor

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eh, it was some crap job at a hot dog stand. dont think its really gonna hurt the guy's future all that much.

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08-13-2017 , 09:20 PM

#38124

Riverman

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Will probably be the subject of the next David Brooks "economic anxiety justifies white supremacy" column in the failing NYT

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08-13-2017 , 09:23 PM

#38125

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We live in a setting so toxic and polarized that it is actually a reverse freeroll for the president of the United States to denounce literally white supremacy

I mean no matter what the damage is done. White nationalism will be THE third party and the strongest of them

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