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07-20-2017 , 02:57 PM
guessing most of you have already seen the NYT's insane interview with Drumpf, it's such a marvel what a demented imbecile he is

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TRUMP: But what it does, Maggie, it means it gets tougher and tougher. As they get something, it gets tougher. Because politically, you can’t give it away. So pre-existing conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Here’s something where you walk up and say, “I want my insurance.” It’s a very tough deal, but it is something that we’re doing a good job of.
the ****!?

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TRUMP: This health care is a tough deal. I said it from the beginning. No. 1, you know, a lot of the papers were saying — actually, these guys couldn’t believe it, how much I know about it. I know a lot about health care.
clearly

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TRUMP: One of the things you get out of this, you get major tax cuts, and reform. And if you add what the people are going to save in the middle income brackets, if you add that to what they’re saving with health care, this is like a windfall for the country, for the people.
lol

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TRUMP: I have had the best reviews on foreign land. So I go to Poland and make a speech. Enemies of mine in the media, enemies of mine are saying it was the greatest speech ever made on foreign soil by a president. I’m saying, man, they cover [garbled]. You saw the reviews I got on that speech. Poland was beautiful and wonderful, and the reception was incredible.
lol

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TRUMP: [Merkel] actually called me, and she said, um, “You know, I think we get along very well.” I said we do, we really do. I said, “You gotta put more money into NATO,” No. 1. And No. 2 is like, our trade imbalance is ridiculous. You know, it’s a money machine.
wut

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TRUMP: It’s been a long time. Nothing changes. Wait till you see what we’re going to do on trade.

HABERMAN: Sounds like it’s going to be very interesting.

TRUMP: Much more interesting than anybody would understand.

HABERMAN: O.K.
"O.K." pretty much the perfect response there

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BAKER: Will you go to Britain? Are you going to make a state visit to Britain? Are you going to be able to do that?

TRUMP: As to Britain?

BAKER: Yeah.

HABERMAN: Will you go there?

[crosstalk]

TRUMP: Ah, they’ve asked me. What was interesting — so, when Macron asked, I said: “Do you think it’s a good thing for me to go to Paris? I just ended the Paris Accord last week. Is this a good thing?” He said, “They love you in France.” I said, “O.K., I just don’t want to hurt you.”
1. you didn't end the Paris Accord.
2. what does Paris have to do with Britain?
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXGPZaTKik

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TRUMP: We had dinner at the Eiffel Tower, and the bottom of the Eiffel Tower looked like they could have never had a bigger celebration ever in the history of the Eiffel Tower. I mean, there were thousands and thousands of people, ’cause they heard we were having dinner.


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TRUMP: Yeah. It was beautiful. We toured the museum, we went to Napoleon’s tomb …

[crosstalk]

TRUMP: Well, Napoleon finished a little bit bad. But I asked that. So I asked the president, so what about Napoleon? He said: “No, no, no. What he did was incredible. He designed Paris.” [garbled] The street grid, the way they work, you know, the spokes. He did so many things even beyond. And his one problem is he didn’t go to Russia that night because he had extracurricular activities, and they froze to death. How many times has Russia been saved by the weather? [garbled]

[crosstalk/unintelligible]

TRUMP: Same thing happened to Hitler. Not for that reason, though. Hitler wanted to consolidate. He was all set to walk in. But he wanted to consolidate, and it went and dropped to 35 degrees below zero, and that was the end of that army.

[crosstalk]

But the Russians have great fighters in the cold. They use the cold to their advantage. I mean, they’ve won five wars where the armies that went against them froze to death. [crosstalk] It’s pretty amazing.

So, we’re having a good time. The economy is doing great.
Napoleon ---> Russia ---> Hitler ---> Der Markt!

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By the way, I want regulations, but, you know, some of the — you have to get nine different regulations, and you could never do anything. I’ve given the farmers back their farms. I’ve given the builders back their land to build houses and to build other things.

The energy stuff is going really well. We’re going to be an exporter — we already are an exporter of energy. We’re doing well. I mean, the banks, you look at rules and regulations, you look at Dodd-Frank, Dodd-Frank is going to be, you know, modified, and again, I want rules and regulations. But you don’t want to choke, right? People can’t get loans to buy a pizza parlor, to buy a — you know, I saw out on the trail — people say, Mr. Trump, we’ve dealt with banks, my own bank, and they can’t loan me anymore. I’ve never had a bad day with a bank. You know? So we’ll put — yeah, because of statutory [garbled], they can’t loan to that kind of a business. And they’re good businesses to loan to. So I think we’ve — I think we’re set to really go [garbled].
not sheriff [garbled] refers to his speaking or thinking

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So, I was seated next to the wife of Prime Minister Abe [Shinzo Abe of Japan], who I think is a terrific guy, and she’s a terrific woman, but doesn’t speak English.

HABERMAN: Like, nothing, right? Like zero?

TRUMP: Like, not “hello.”

HABERMAN: That must make for an awkward seating.

TRUMP: Well, it’s hard, because you know, you’re sitting there for——

HABERMAN: Hours.

TRUMP: So the dinner was probably an hour and 45 minutes.
just a funny tidbit here, but apparently this "terrific guy" actually speaks English well, so she might have just pretended so she didn't have to talk to Drumpf lol

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TRUMP: As I’ve said — most other people, you know, when they call up and say, “By the way, we have information on your opponent,” I think most politicians — I was just with a lot of people, they said [inaudible], “Who wouldn’t have taken a meeting like that?” They just said——

HABERMAN: The senators downstairs?

TRUMP: A lot of them. They said, “Who wouldn’t have taken a meeting like that?”

BAKER: You asked them about it at lunch?

TRUMP: Nah, a couple of them. They — now, that was before Russia was hot, don’t forget. You know, Russia wasn’t hot then. That was almost a year and a half ago. It wasn’t like it is, like it is radioactive, then. Russia was Russia.
Russia, so hot right now

also pretty unlikely that he knows what Chernobyl is huh?

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TRUMP: [Hillary] was opposing sanctions. She was totally opposed to any sanctions for Russia.

BAKER: When was that?

HABERMAN: Do you remember when that was? I don’t remember that.

TRUMP: I just saw it. I just saw it. She was opposed to sanctions, strongly opposed to sanctions on Russia.

HABERMAN: This is post-Crimea, I’m assuming? Is that what we would be talking about?

TRUMP: I don’t really know. … But in that time. And don’t forget, Crimea was given away during Obama. Not during Trump. In fact, I was on one of the shows, I said they’re exactly right, they didn’t have it as it exactly. But he was — this — Crimea was gone during the Obama administration, and he gave, he allowed it to get away. You know, he can talk tough all he wants, in the meantime he talked tough to North Korea. And he didn’t actually. He didn’t talk tough to North Korea. You know, we have a big problem with North Korea. Big. Big, big. You look at all of the things, you look at the line in the sand. The red line in the sand in Syria. He didn’t do the shot. I did the shot. Had he done that shot, he wouldn’t have had — had he done something dramatic, because if you remember, they had a tremendous gas attack after he made that statement. Much bigger than the one they had with me.
really amazing to wind him up and just let him go

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TRUMP: Sarin. And, and tremendous numbers of people were killed, young people, children. And he didn’t do anything. That was a famous weekend where they were all asking him to do it, do it, do it. They thought they had it, and then he — not easy to do, I will say this, ’cause when I had to make that decision, I was with the president of China, and General Mattis [Defense Secretary Jim Mattis] said, “We’re locked and loaded, sir,” and I’m saying [mumbles], you know. [mumbles] Look, you’re killing people.

HABERMAN: Yes.

TRUMP: You hate it, it’s tough. Obama — you know, I can understand it in a way, but some things you have to do. But it’s, it’s a tough, it’s a tough decision to make.
do what exactly?

i assume this is about when they caused cosmetic damage to that airstrip, or when they dropped the MOAB = MissionAccomplished.banner

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TRUMP: Yeah, I think so. In retrospect. In retrospect. You know, when [Comey] wrote me the letter, he said, “You have every right to fire me,” blah blah blah. Right? He said, “You have every right to fire me.” I said, that’s a very strange — you know, over the years, I’ve hired a lot of people, I’ve fired a lot of people. Nobody has ever written me a letter back that you have every right to fire me.

[crosstalk]

BAKER: Do you think in hindsight, because of what’s happened since then——

TRUMP: Comey wrote a letter.

HABERMAN: Which letter?

SCHMIDT: To you? To the F.B.I. staff or to you?

TRUMP: I thought it was to me, right?

BAKER: I think he wrote it to the staff, saying——

TRUMP: It might have been——

BAKER: That “the president has every right to fire me.”

TRUMP: It might have been. It was just a very strange letter to say that.

BAKER: But do you think in hindsight, given that——

TRUMP: What was the purpose in repeating that?

BAKER: Do you think what’s given that——

TRUMP: Do you understand what I mean? Why would somebody say, “He has every right to fire me,” bah bah bah. Why wouldn’t you just say, “Hey, I’ve retired …”
"yo, i've retired!"
-COMEY

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[crosstalk]

TRUMP: It was very — a lot of people have commented that.

BAKER: Given what’s happened since then, though, was it a political mistake to have fired him, given what’s happened?

TRUMP: I think I did a great thing for the American people.
most of this jlawok.jiff


there's more on Sessions, the FBI, his finances, Russian collusion, etc but i'm getting bored of this, and it's already way too long
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07-20-2017 , 03:20 PM
Why would he give the failing NY Times an interview at all?
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07-20-2017 , 03:23 PM
He's clearly had a mutually beneficial press relationship with Maggie Haberman for a long time, the "failing" NY Times is also the media outlet, other than possibly Time, that he most yearns for coverage from.
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07-20-2017 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jenningst77
i see the republicans and democrats are at it again

Lawmakers seek to criminalize israel boycotts

no surprising names except for gillibrand who my dumb ass thought really had her pulse on the electorate and would avoid these horrible things before 2020 and end up being a relatively great and charismatic candidate but here we are
How is this not a big deal in the news? That is blatantly unconstitutional. This is something we laugh at banana republics for doing. The people who sponsored this bill should be removed from their congressional seats immediately. What a shocker Shumer and Cruz support the bill. 2 of the worst humans in America
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07-20-2017 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
How is this not a big deal in the news?
Because it was unlikely to ever become law and it's unlikely that AUSAs would seek jail time in these spots. Or, it'll get pled down.
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07-20-2017 , 05:23 PM
There's plenty of blatantly unconstitutional policies, regulations, and laws already in effect and some have even survived challenges up to the Supreme Court so what's the big deal about pushing the envelope a little further?
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07-20-2017 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by manbearpuig
This is something we laugh at banana republics for doing.
basically the official slogan for the Drumpf administration
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07-20-2017 , 06:21 PM
I predict McCain issues a statement that he is "very concerned* about his brain cancer but then doesn't bother getting treatment.
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07-20-2017 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
I predict McCain issues a statement that he is "very concerned* about his brain cancer but then doesn't bother getting treatment.
You sit around all day waiting for a good brain tumor joke, and sometimes things just work out. Thanks, man.
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07-20-2017 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kneel B4 Zod
I predict McCain issues a statement that he is "very concerned* about his brain cancer but then doesn't bother getting treatment.
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07-21-2017 , 06:58 AM
jfc they really unveiled something called "maganomics"

I cant even
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07-21-2017 , 09:00 AM
The first lady of Japan faked not being able to speak English just so she wouldn't have to talk to Trump during a dinner.
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07-21-2017 , 10:56 AM
Heh Trump getting the Honey-Jehovah's-Witnesses-Are-At-The-Door-Again treatment is amazing
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07-21-2017 , 11:58 AM
Spicey OUT
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07-21-2017 , 12:06 PM
RIP Spiceman. FU for subjecting us to more Melissa McCarthy
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07-21-2017 , 12:33 PM
Poor guy, he held out longer than anyone thought. Impossible job
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07-21-2017 , 12:51 PM
Having any sympathy for the Spiceman, at all, is weak. He's human trash, a demonstrated coward and liar, and an enemy of intelligence. **** him. May he suffer a lifelong and extremely painful urinary tract infection and die alone listening to nothing but Hillary Clinton's miserable campaign speeches.
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07-21-2017 , 01:03 PM
That is all, as a general rule, true of any White House Press Secretary in recent memory. Anyone who would accept that position is just a worthless human. I don't think the Spiceman knew exactly what he was signing up for (no one would), which kind of engenders some sympathy, but no, **** him.
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07-21-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Having any sympathy for the Spiceman, at all, is weak. He's human trash, a demonstrated coward and liar, and an enemy of intelligence. **** him. May he suffer a lifelong and extremely painful urinary tract infection and die alone listening to nothing but Hillary Clinton's miserable campaign speeches.
Cool, I'll be awful. He's an idiot who got paid a lot of money to give gibberish explanations to his awful boss' nonsense.

Plenty of dumb people looking for a paycheck and a chance to meet the pope out there.

As an aside, Hoya, would it shock you to realize many professional campaign managers and the like have worked for both parties?
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07-21-2017 , 01:19 PM
Not remotely, most of them are total garbage, but he's an even lower species than most.
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07-21-2017 , 01:24 PM
Who are these campaign managers working for both Democrats and Republicans outside of, like, city council races maybe?
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07-21-2017 , 01:30 PM
Know a little bit about the behind scenes of politics (mainly from The Axe Files, haha) and I don't think it is common for campaign managers to work for both parties. Someone who has been in politics for decades may have changed parties like once with a reason such as "I was inspired to become a R by the great Ronald Reagan!" but they aren't going back and forth switching teams.
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07-21-2017 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
Who are these campaign managers working for both Democrats and Republicans outside of, like, city council races maybe?
To be clear, my experience (rather, the person I spoke with) did everything up to US house races. He mentioned that he'd done both fairly often and that it wasn't uncommon.

I imagine it's much less common in presidential campaigns, but most people are just whores for Money. That pretty much describes everyone, so I don't think acting particularly holy is worth much effort.
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07-21-2017 , 01:48 PM
Karl Rove joining up to help make the Hillary 2020 hindsight campaign happen would make so many heads explode.

David Axelrod hooking up with Ted Cruz would make it even better.
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07-21-2017 , 01:50 PM
Sean Spicer joining the Kanye/Lavar Ball 2020 campaign comes to mind as well
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