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Holliday, let's pretend for a moment that you identify as a hard working good person who cannot find a job.

Let's set aside arguments about whether that self-identity is valid or true, etc. Just put yourself in that place - you want a job, **** is expensive, there aren't jobs when there used to be and that **** didn't change under Obama.

You turn on your TV and you've got Donald Trump lying to you about bringing back those ancient-ass jobs you highly value (whether you had one or not, or your daddy had one, whatever). He heard your complaining, though, for sure, because he's directly addressing it.

Hillary is over there talking about deplorable white people who support that huckster, and about high-minded **** that has nothing to do with your idea of what sucks about America. She mentioned increasing minimum wage but you still don't have a job.

I take pwns's point to be, partly, that THAT VOTER at least knows Trump claims to care about them, while Hillary for sure looks like she doesn't give a **** about that voter, and in fact hates that voter.

Hey I may be hard working and I may be a person but what was the other thing you called me?

I get you're locked into this shame spiral but we're still left with people paying attention to that diseased maniac and finding anything he says credible which only begs the question how any of these people have even managed to keep themselves alive out there.

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07-11-2017 , 06:26 PM

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Heroball

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Originally Posted by CPHoya

one of the customary hazards of cultivating a swole-ass brain is that it tends to upset people who don't lift

DYEPersuade?

Or just getting off on some good ol' thing-telling?

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07-11-2017 , 06:39 PM

#36803

bowens

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

yeah that sounds fine

i mean obviously most people voted dem or repub along party lines and would have voted for basically any candidate under those labels

like trump is obviously not a republican or christian or moral or anything and captured all those pretty easily

I think the story is actually quite sympathetic. Guy works in coal 20-30 and is let go, grew up in some relatively patriotic family/america first, sees news talk about syrian refugees and feels americans/dems care more about them than him, just wants to work, why has he been forgotten? Told he'll be taken care of, but wants to take care of himself.

Most people just want to work their jobs 40 hours a week and find a bit of happiness. Obviously they aren't ranting on the interwebs or care about trans rights or anything very much.

Also I like this comic and there are some other good ones in there.

https://thenib.com/democrats-time-to...-bors&t=author

So, (and this isn't simply directed at you, of course) do we have to ONLY care about coalman OR refugees? Can't we do both?

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07-11-2017 , 07:05 PM

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pwnsall

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You can care about both.

Personally I think there is some merit through reciprocity and cultural homogeny type things to care about fellow citizens who can vote more than refugees who we displaced through war mongering (which I disagree with).

Also I know a lot of people bring up the fact that you can discuss both X and Y but it does seem like some topics crowd out other topics in a very real and disproportionate way to how important they are. We only have so much time and brain processing power.

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07-11-2017 , 07:27 PM

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Victor

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Stuff like trickle down that Hoya rants about that neocons and neolibs love. Relatively high unemployment that could be cured through job guarantees, seems like easily as much of a "right"as free health care. Immigration pseudo slave labor putting downward pressure on wages.

I'll maybe come up with some other stuff but I doubt you really care.

so wait, you dont like trickle down? and you are blaming the dems for trickle down?

if so, you are like massively ill informed. like, proly the most ill informed person on this site and that is even taking into account the trolls and shills in chezland.

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07-11-2017 , 07:43 PM

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Victor

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Most people just want to work their jobs 40 hours a week and find a bit of happiness. Obviously they aren't ranting on the interwebs or care about trans rights or anything very much.

bro, the ppl who care the most about trans rights and who are pursuing laws in regards to trans ppl are the friggin republicans.

see, this is how I know that you are full of sht. you are just another brainwashed partisan simpleton who swallows the bull**** that the republicans and conservatives throw out there and you absolutely refuse to actually inform yourself on the true state of things.

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07-11-2017 , 07:46 PM

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Wooders0n

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Yeah probably a huge correlation between being a talentless worthless idiot coal worker and caring A LOT about which bathroom transpeople use

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07-11-2017 , 07:47 PM

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Wooders0n

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Also there really aren't that many coal workers and Trump didn't win because of them. All the people I know who voted Trump are pretty well off and just hate minorities, poor people, and especially poor minorities.

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07-11-2017 , 07:49 PM

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Wooders0n

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And the notion that Trump won because Fly calls everyone racist and hurt their feelings is essentially ******ed. Turns out Fly has actually been understating how racist Americans are, pretty significantly so at that.

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07-11-2017 , 07:52 PM

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Lawnmower Man

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

I mean they really want jobs and to be able to make their own way in life.

Then why don't they use their bootstraps to get the skills required to get a job? Just sounds like they're asking for handouts to me.

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07-11-2017 , 07:53 PM

#36811

Lawnmower Man

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

what's the penalty for treason in merica?

4 more years

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07-11-2017 , 08:12 PM

#36812

pwnsall

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Ha, alright, continue the cum guzzling jerk off!

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07-11-2017 , 08:19 PM

#36813

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Mueller looking into Trump Jr.

Was obvious going to happen but that's a good thing.

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07-11-2017 , 08:20 PM

#36814

Bdidd

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Ha, alright, continue the cum guzzling jerk off!

There is there there bro. Don't be upset. Allow me to comfort you. There there my boy. There there.

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07-11-2017 , 08:22 PM

#36815

Bdidd

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Originally Posted by Wooders0n

Yeah probably a huge correlation between being a talentless worthless idiot coal worker and caring A LOT about which bathroom transpeople use

You wouldn't last a day in a coal mine. Neither would I but I'm just pointing it out to you.

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07-11-2017 , 08:34 PM

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Noze

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Yeah Hoya, there's the guy you were saying wasn't stupid.

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07-11-2017 , 08:54 PM

#36817

Krayz

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Originally Posted by pwnsall

Ha, alright, continue the cum guzzling jerk off!

As long as you realize that the modern Republican party and Trump himself is not even close to what your vision is. Unless you consider destroying entitlements without the realization of anything else progress. I think you're smart enough to know that entitlements + ****ty democrat policies is better than running the country by ****ing people over + no entitlements though. Trump and the Repub party are not anyone's libertarian, ancap, etc. ideal - all he is, is an oligarchic moron that cares nothing about Americans except their votes and if you can't see that, than political discourse is useless.

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07-11-2017 , 09:22 PM

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Most of the people I know who were Trump voters are just rural people and don't have any concept of what the government is or does (despite receiving millions in farm subsidies year in and year out, somehow)

If you live in the middle of nowhere and that's all you've ever known, any idiot can talk you into anything.

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07-11-2017 , 09:37 PM

#36819

mullen

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Originally Posted by Bdidd

You wouldn't last a day in a coal mine. Neither would I but I'm just pointing it out to you.

That's part of the reason why coal is an inefficient, obsolete commodity and the jobs aren't coming back

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07-11-2017 , 09:44 PM

#36820

CPHoya

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welp

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07-11-2017 , 09:54 PM

#36821

72off

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hay i wanna make $1B/year to work in a gold mine in Delaware, why won't Drumpf let me!?!

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07-11-2017 , 10:07 PM

#36822

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by Noze

Yeah Hoya, there's the guy you were saying wasn't stupid.

Yeah, first dumb thing hoya has said in a while.

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07-11-2017 , 10:09 PM

#36823

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by schu_22

There was a recent (Newsweek?) poll that had like 60% of republicans believing college/secondary schooling institutions were bad for the country. How do you recover from That?

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07-11-2017 , 10:10 PM

#36824

72off

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you can't, they're done

GUT INSTINCT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual knowledge

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07-11-2017 , 10:26 PM

#36825

MonsterJMcgee

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Median Trump voter was wealthier and more educated than the median Hillary voter. The Hillbilly Elegy narrative is complete bull**** and not worth discussing

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