LOL

Michigan Man!

http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/in...tish_gets.html

The correct answer was actually 1

And lol at the idea that literally everyone who disagrees with you is, by default, dumber than you and not capable of forming their own opinions nor worth engaging (despite all the evidence to the contrary).

This mindset is why you will continually be eviscerated in elections.

There are many many low IQ democratic voting posters itt and many very intelligent ones including guys smarter than I am. It's a shame you're not intelligent enough to see you're not some all knowing being.

Not many low IQ ppl here.

Disko no amount of not talking down to your dumb ass in particular would change your political views, just own it instead of doing this fraudulent little song and dance we're currently enduring.

No, let's keep it up for another 3 years and enjoy the turn of "well, this is why I'm voting trump 2020"

It's this weird internet forum thing where it's our job to talk disko out of fascism.

Man, why can't he get there himself? How come there's no burden on HIM to talk us out of our basic human decency?

It's this sneering "na-na" schoolyard ****, disko is holding his political opinions ransom until people are nice to him. No, man, there's no mind changing here. Say your piece and deal with the judgment.

Disko, we talk down to you because you parked your dumb ass at the bottom of the hill. Come up any time, but I'm not your ****ing parents and I don't get paid for this ****, I'm not going to hold your ****ing hand and tell you it's OK to be a viciously stupid racist but it'd be even more OK to be less stupid and less racist.

suzzer,

post-2000 movies that are not given the respect they deserve, filling out a top 5 with The Assassination of Jesse James.

Sunshine
The Way of the Gun(this one should fall off the list, it took over a decade for him to get another directing gig but now McQuarrie is directing Mission Impossible movies)
The Lives of Others
Syriana

To be fair this applies to all Republicans/far righters not just disko. Would have much more respect for these people if they just came out and said, "I really don't give a **** about anyone but myself (especially not minorities, women, or poors)". This cute hide behind (not-so)-thinly-veiled racism/sexism/classism thing they do just makes them all the more cowardly. If you want to be a terrible human that's fine - own that **** tho cuz you're not fooling anyone who already doesn't share your inhumane (whether educated or uneducated) worldview and horrible morals.

I know it's inflammatory and stuff like this doesn't really accomplish much but it just needs repeating cuz it's true: at this point the only difference between Republicans and Nazis is that Nazis had the actual balls (not greatest choice of words but "motivation" seems weird too) and (lack of?) intelligence to be actual literal Nazis and begin to put their plans into actions. Thankfully, the Republicans don't have that yet but it seems as if it's getting closer and closer to that point daily.

I've had some productive conversations with conservatives in person about health care and education. One guy came around quite a bit to single payer but ultimately said he just weighed having a gigantic military as more valuable. I mean, we disagreed, but it was a totally fine, respectful conversation.

Trump supporters or no? This is probably just in my mind but to me there's a difference between actual conservatives and Republicans. I've been able to have reasonable, respectful conversations with people I view as conservative. Never with a person I view as a Republican. Maybe this is just me playing semantics but there seems to be a pretty big (and widening) gap between the 2 as far as logic/reason/empathy goes.

My cousin is a high-info moderate conservative - who can see through the front-line propaganda BS. I can talk to him all day and we find all kinds of common ground. He's about the only one of those I know IRL though.

Yeah those definitely aren't the Republicans I'm referring to when I use it as a blanket term. Unfortunately they're in the minority of right wingers it seems. I know a few of those guys as well.

Imagine if 90% of democrat voters watched nothing but MSNBC and even more liberal stuff like young turks - and believed CNN, WSJ, NYT, etc. were all right-wing shills not to be trusted. That is basically the state of the republican base in USA 2017.

There is no law of nature that says both sides must be totally equal and opposite at all times.

I talk politics in FB with basically one subset of people. Me and one conservative (family values guy, gun nut) can reach agreement on 95% of issues. No one else on either side can come close. Includes a former Republican lobbyist who very obviously is only trying to influence with spin and confusing half truths.

Great analogy. It might even be worse than that. Like if salon.com was a tv station and democrats watched only that. Is there something televised right now that's to the left of young turks? (Which I guess I don't have a good sense of how left they are so perhaps the question is moot)

There would be an equivalence if as many lefties paid attention to Louise Mensch as righties who pay attention to Hannity.

My father in law and I are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum and always have great conversations about politics. Only person I've ever encountered with that I've been able to do that with

Syriana is a phenomenal movie. And it has aged really, really well. Never understood why it isn't widely regarded as one of the best politically themed movies ever, because it is.

WTF, that's not a cranking fetish. This is a cranking fetish.

I don't think Syriana essentially getting the writer/director blacklisted* from Hollywood can be divorced from the drama it showed.

Like compare it to Michael Clayton, which depicted a world where big corporations have people murdered to cover up agricultural liability issues. Incredibly left wing. That's fantasy, that doesn't happen, so it's OK. And at the end, the protagonist outsmarts all the bad guys and they get their comeuppance.

And the other star of Syriana comparison role, in the US government in the Bourne films is explicitly depicted as having bad actors in it going around authorizing off-the-books killings for financial gain. Also fantasy, also OK, and the Good Guys win at the end.

Syriana, though, has the US government openly and wholeheartedly doing awful **** to favor the financial interests of oil companies. It also shows radical Islam as something that preys on young men whose exploitation via late stage capitalism robs them of all hope, and explicitly lays out that petro-state funding of Wahhabist schools allows them to hook those hopeless young men through providing them basic resources.

That's all 100% true. It's too real, and it doesn't provide closure. It just accurately displays the ****ing nightmare of American foreign policy and the relationship we have with petrostate oligarchs.

* Here's his writing credits from 2000-present
2013 Call of Duty: Ghosts (Video Game) (writer)
2011 Metro (TV Movie)
2005 Syriana (written by)
2005 Havoc (screenplay) / (story)
2004 The Alamo (written by)
2002 Abandon (written by)
2000 Traffic (screenplay)
2000 Rules of Engagement (screenplay)

How about, it sucked?

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...114-story.html

This article doesn't really make it seem like Gaghan was blacklisted. I mean Clooney and Soderberg stopped working with him because they were pissed he blabbed about them pulling final cut from him in Syriana. Unless you think that Clooney and Soderberg were upset about the politics of Syriana (a movie they made???).

Then it sounds like he just worked on a bunch of **** that didn't work out.

The transcript of rump's liberty U commencement is something alright

I was on the Mall and Marine One flew over; I assumed he was on his way to that speech. Any highlights?