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04-09-2017 , 07:48 AM
Ok but when you make a point that an awful policy will make people realize Clinton>Trump you should probably pick something that isn't a trademarked Clinton legacy issue
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04-09-2017 , 08:45 AM
i hope jeff sessions throws you in jail for buying weed

hillary clinton in 2016 was clearly nowhere near the same as bill clinton in 1992 on issues like crime, drugs and immigration. that argument is so ****ing dumb.
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04-09-2017 , 09:21 AM
I don't smoke weed
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04-09-2017 , 09:30 AM
It'd be a lot cooler if you did.
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04-09-2017 , 09:45 AM
Damn what a post
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04-10-2017 , 08:05 AM
that is a poty contender

anyway, i thought this was a worthwhile article regarding the chemical attacks in syria:
http://necpluribusimpar.net/chemical-attack-syria/
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04-10-2017 , 11:01 AM
That's a great article. Guess NYT really is FAKENEWS.
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04-10-2017 , 11:06 AM
I think that article has some credibility issues.
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04-10-2017 , 11:07 AM
If Assad wasn't behind the chemical attacks on the town, his respose to the missile strike being further attacks on that town seems awfully curious.
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04-10-2017 , 11:13 AM
Even if the author's claims, such as they are (and the author takes pains not to stake out a definitive position), are imprecise and possibly informed by isolationist predilections, it is clear that media accounts (some of which the government relies upon in part to make decisions) are generated through--at best--a grossly ad hoc and unscientific process.
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04-10-2017 , 11:19 AM
We have satellite coverage on Syria. Our government can tell where the planes came from for these attacks. Our government can lie to us, but to say we rely on NYT reports to know who to bomb is wrong.
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04-10-2017 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Heroball
Even if the author's claims, such as they are (and the author takes pains not to stake out a definitive position), are imprecise and possibly informed by isolationist predilections, it is clear that media accounts (some of which the government relies upon in part to make decisions) are generated through--at best--a grossly ad hoc and unscientific process.
his position is quite clear.

and I agree, he does indeed take immense pains to avoid intentionally asserting such clear position.
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04-10-2017 , 11:27 AM
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One of the benefits that some, including yours truly, hoped would result from Trump’s election was that he seemed to oppose the neoconservative/liberal interventionist foreign policy.
it is very hard to trust someone who writes something like this. and almost his entire article is making claims and asking us to trust him.
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04-10-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Nittery
We have satellite coverage on Syria. Our government can tell where the planes came from for these attacks. Our government can lie to us, but to say we rely on NYT reports to know who to bomb is wrong.
Relies upon to politically sell the decision seems uncontroversial.
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04-10-2017 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
it is very hard to trust someone who writes something like this. and almost his entire article is making claims and asking us to trust him.
I agree. But the evidence and analysis are very detailed.
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04-10-2017 , 11:44 AM
Without reading that article, is it picking up the "Did McCain supply ISIS with chemical weapons to frame Assad again." meme from the "gassing hoax" theorists?
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04-10-2017 , 05:09 PM
Not saying they're the same person, am saying I've never seen them together in the same room



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04-10-2017 , 05:12 PM
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Not saying they're the same person, am saying I've never seen them together in the same room



Story checks out

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04-10-2017 , 05:28 PM
Maybe Urban Meyer mixed with Cousin Larry from Perfect Strangers.
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04-10-2017 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I think that article has some credibility issues.
yeah it's a random blogger, but even a little bit of truth makes it worthwhile, esp some of the turkey stuff. a 'big if true' situation on the overall thesis imo
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04-10-2017 , 06:38 PM
Anyway, on the subject of real news;

Today Alabama's governor (Titty-grabber) has resigned. This flies in the face of his Friday announcement that he would not resign, but probably best to trust the more recent news.

In a fascinating tangent, this leaves Alabama with our second female governor after George Wallace's wife, or more accurately, our first female governor.
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04-10-2017 , 07:58 PM
Rather presumptuous of the blogger to assume that the US bombed Assad's airfield and freak out about it as if it is the 100% truth. Yes, Trump claimed that he ordered it but I can give you a thousand examples of him lying. How do we know someone like Turkey didn't do it and Trump just claim responsibility for it so he could look like he is in control? I am not saying that is what happened, but there is no way to know for sure.
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04-10-2017 , 07:59 PM
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04-10-2017 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
We're going to need to see a birth certificate.
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04-10-2017 , 09:52 PM
campfirewest 2020
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