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02-21-2017 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
i don't get the sense that anyone really cares to defend Polanski or Dunham for anything
A friend of mine who has gone full redpill messaged a yootoob to me today that is doing the rounds in the derposphere, it features George Takei saying he was "not molested" by an 18 year old camp counsellor he had sex with when he was 13. Naturally this exposes the left once again as HYPOCRITES. I'm sure you can deconstruct the differences from Milo and what he said yourself. Note, I'm obviously not proposing that it's OK for 18 year olds to **** 13 year olds, particularly when they are in a position like camp counsellor, and I don't think Takei was either, though I had to rely on a derposphere summary of what he said because lol yootoobs.
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02-21-2017 , 11:31 PM
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02-21-2017 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ymmv
I'm sure hoya is in the midst of typing a novel on this but as a gun control advocate i wanna throw this out there:



1. The regulation is overbroad in that people who receive SSI/SSDI and have it managed for them by a 3rd party suffer from a huge range of mental disabilities that all have very very different symptoms. There is no attempt by it to substantively evaluate which ones are or are not linked to violence. There is also no process suggested by which those who would be labeled as violent could challenge that designation.



2. It's breadth perpetuates the stereotype that people with mental disabilities are somehow inherently more violent one way or another.



therefore, when it comes to ACLU's position, ALL ABOARD FULL STEAM AHEAD.

I'm all in favor of making it harder for everyone to obtain firearms. There is obviously a spectrum of appropriate restriction: violent felons most restricted; stable, well-trained individuals with no violent history, least restricted. A logical place to restrict access further would be people with mental instability, because they tend to, ya know, act more impulsively than other people. I don't know if it's possible to prove whether mentally unstable are more inherently violent (they're probably not). However, they are, almost by definition, less stable and more susceptible to severe instability (e.g., if they stop taking appropriate medications) They shouldn't be able to get guns very easily.
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02-22-2017 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Heroball
I'm all in favor of making it harder for everyone to obtain firearms. There is obviously a spectrum of appropriate restriction: violent felons most restricted; stable, well-trained individuals with no violent history, least restricted. A logical place to restrict access further would be people with mental instability, because they tend to, ya know, act more impulsively than other people. I don't know if it's possible to prove whether mentally unstable are more inherently violent (they're probably not). However, they are, almost by definition, less stable and more susceptible to severe instability (e.g., if they stop taking appropriate medications) They shouldn't be able to get guns very easily.
i literally disagree with nothing you just said, but your post is ignoring what was in the actual regulation at issue here. not trying to be a dick, just saying that it's worth reading the law we are talking about before forming an opinion (esp given the fact that the ACLU of all organizations is opposing it).

again, it was way overbroad in what it was trying to fix.
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02-22-2017 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ymmv
I'm sure hoya is in the midst of typing a novel on this but as a gun control advocate i wanna throw this out there:

1. The regulation is overbroad in that people who receive SSI/SSDI and have it managed for them by a 3rd party suffer from a huge range of mental disabilities that all have very very different symptoms. There is no attempt by it to substantively evaluate which ones are or are not linked to violence. There is also no process suggested by which those who would be labeled as violent could challenge that designation.

2. It's breadth perpetuates the stereotype that people with mental disabilities are somehow inherently more violent one way or another.

therefore, when it comes to ACLU's position, ALL ABOARD FULL STEAM AHEAD.
If they could expand it to include people *not* on SSI/SSDI as well, I think that'd be great!
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02-22-2017 , 02:17 AM
Yeah, while my reaction to overturning the law was initially "wat", after doing some reading (for instance here) I agree that it should not be law. I'm very much for gun control, but as long as gun rights are a thing, they shouldn't be taken away from people without some evidence that those people are violence risks. "The mentally ill" is too broad a group for membership to serve as evidence in this regard.
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02-22-2017 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
A friend of mine who has gone full redpill messaged a yootoob to me today that is doing the rounds in the derposphere, it features George Takei saying he was "not molested" by an 18 year old camp counsellor he had sex with when he was 13. Naturally this exposes the left once again as HYPOCRITES. I'm sure you can deconstruct the differences from Milo and what he said yourself. Note, I'm obviously not proposing that it's OK for 18 year olds to **** 13 year olds, particularly when they are in a position like camp counsellor, and I don't think Takei was either, though I had to rely on a derposphere summary of what he said because lol yootoobs.
Did Takei ever say anything along the lines of "It's not pedophilia if they have functional sex organs"?
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02-22-2017 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Did Takei ever say anything along the lines of "It's not pedophilia if they have functional sex organs"?
What he said was BASICALLY THE SAME THING, libtard. HYPOCRISY!
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02-22-2017 , 04:40 AM
There need be an investigation into whether Milo had PIZZA in DC!
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02-22-2017 , 05:49 AM
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If Yiannopoulos is as screwed as he seems, the left has little to celebrate in the manner of the defeat; he has been brought down, after all, by the one weapon we don’t want to give power to. He has been brought down not by reasoned liberal argument, nor by moral victory over his cod theories, nor by anti-fascist agitation. He has been brought down by conservative moral outrage. Specifically, by conservative moral outrage over gay male sexuality. I can think of nobody on Earth who more richly deserves to be humbled and held accountable. I just wanted my team to be the ones to do it.
https://psmag.com/on-the-milo-bus-wi...986#.c632m8ykd

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Yiannopoulos has quickly found out which ideas will actually get you booted from the public square, and they’re left-wing ones rather than right-wing ones. It turned out the real people you can’t offend are the conservatives whose latent homophobia make them instantly pounce on a gay man as a defender of pedophilia when he tries to explain his world to them. How fitting that Yiannopoulos should end up subjected to the very kind of vicious misrepresentation of LGBT people that he has spent his time encouraging. How appropriate for him to discover that his friends on the right only supported him so long as he nurtured their prejudices; they loved their campy gay mascot until the moment he challenged them. Then he was a pervert.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...d-what-we-wont
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02-22-2017 , 05:56 AM
That's so stupid. Pedophilia is not gay male sexuality.

Idiots were already turned off by gay male sexuality. But they found Milo useful as an idiotic way to (in their minds) win arguments against about a half a dozen other issues. It's like what I said earlier about how "if even a gay is saying this, you know we are right. The other gays, and the libs who we all know are basically gays, have been brainwashed by the trans and Muslims who are using gays and libs to bring down America."

If they are now going to see the connections they used to see between LGBT people and pedophiles, that's because they are idiots. And it's a pretty goddamn big presumption to act like they lost that connection and are now regaining it.
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02-22-2017 , 06:05 AM
He never hid talks of sexual acts. He was ****ing loud and descriptive about it, at his ****ing alt right rallies.

Maybe it really is about abusing kids and maybe it really is a dumbass leap to say it's about "becoming too aware that he does gay sex which we are going to equate to pedophilia but not to denigrate the gays, we are doing it to try to support and help them. Equating pedophilia to homosexuality is positive when WE do it!"
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02-22-2017 , 11:05 AM
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02-22-2017 , 11:14 AM
I'm actually shocked the golfing is that low
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02-22-2017 , 11:39 AM




lol
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02-22-2017 , 11:48 AM
The fact that Brietbart is being treated as a news organization means we already lost.
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02-22-2017 , 11:58 AM
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lol
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02-22-2017 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
That's so stupid. Pedophilia is not gay male sexuality.

Idiots were already turned off by gay male sexuality. But they found Milo useful as an idiotic way to (in their minds) win arguments against about a half a dozen other issues. It's like what I said earlier about how "if even a gay is saying this, you know we are right. The other gays, and the libs who we all know are basically gays, have been brainwashed by the trans and Muslims who are using gays and libs to bring down America."

If they are now going to see the connections they used to see between LGBT people and pedophiles, that's because they are idiots. And it's a pretty goddamn big presumption to act like they lost that connection and are now regaining it.
Looks like another example of conservatives accidentally outing their weird-ass world view. And they've done this one before with not wanting gays to be boy scout leaders. They just thought this Milo character was a normal gay outlook. This is what accepting gays means to these people.

Similar phenomenon with the bakeries' right to not bake a gay wedding cake; because while we see it as discriminating against gay people and blockheaded for a business to want to use it's position to be mean to certain people, conservatives basically think, "*Who* can't immediately relate to someone not wanting to endorse pederasty?"

It's not just gays. Every now and then they think they've found a chance to accuse a prominent female democrat of sexism because they hired a woman or were surprised that so many women voted for Trump or something. It's cute.
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02-22-2017 , 01:47 PM
Anyone who hitched their wagon to Milo got what they deserved. He was always an obvious ticking time bomb.
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02-22-2017 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
The fact that Brietbart is being treated as a news organization means we already lost.
This is very accurate
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02-22-2017 , 03:12 PM
Thought I've had for a while - I'm surprised we haven't seen a black Milo. Not a dumb celebrity who says they endorse Trump, like Mike Tyson or Azealia Banks. Someone fairly smart willing to completely sell out, give speeches about how BLM are terrorists, racism is over/white people experience racism too, everyone's too PC, blacks in the inner cities need to work harder and stop committing crime, scream 'WHAT ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK VIOLENCE' every time someone is murdered by the police. All that stuff. Along with the standard hating Muslims, feminists, immigrants, ((('globalists'))) and liberals.

The alt-right would love black Milo even more than gay Milo, because in their minds it would acquit them of their most frequent charge, racism. Obviously you can't be racist if you support a black person!

Obviously theoretical black Milo (or Muslim Milo, Mexican Milo etc) would be an awful person, but being an awful person while getting famous and getting paid seems like something people would be willing to do.
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02-22-2017 , 03:19 PM
Hmmm...maybe I should apply for Muslim Milo

Path of least resistance really
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02-22-2017 , 03:25 PM
Clarence Thomas
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02-22-2017 , 03:27 PM
Sheriff David Clarke is pretty close.
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02-22-2017 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Sheriff David Clarke is pretty close.
Yeah, he came to mind right away for me too. He's not that far off already, and could easily get there if he wanted to cash in bigly.
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