I think the thesis is supposed to be that people in the latter group didn't read 538 or similar sources, so they never got the memo that "this person isn't going to win". Not sure if that qualifies as mental gymnastics, but I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder.

Source? According to the NHS in the UK, one adult in six has a common mental disorder (CMD): about one woman in five and one man in eight. Since 2000, overall rates of CMD have steadily increased in women and remained largely stable in men. WRT physical health, women have higher morbidity rates than men.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsle...-gap-in-health

Yes, men have a higher mortality rate. Women have a higher morbidity rate. They do not have better health than men.

Good lord

Good lord what? Vhawk throws out the statement that women have better health physically and mentally, presumably to illustrate how they have it better than men. He is wrong on both counts. I thought this was the thread in which we point out when Trumpkins make stuff up.

"Good lord" = and you thought "what cost Hillary the election" was an AIDS discussion.

Well the post above your said men are "more burdened by illness during life", which is more or less morbidity rate. So unless you're saying his linked source is full of **** (and you haven't even done that), the ball is in your court at this point.

Women suffering from depression or other mental illness are much more likely to seek treatment than men are. Men go undiagnosed at a much higher rate than women.

The vhawk experience - not for pregnant women or people with heart conditions.

Awwww, Melkerson's puppy-dog love of ikes got transferred to his closest comparably racist medical professional poster.

Pretty sure this is wrong. Trump won with college educated whites (who prob account for at least 90% of visits to 538).

Edit: what you're saying is right but I think you're implying the opposite. I could be wrong though it's been awhile since I looked at that stuff

College educated whites under 40 went heavily to Hillary, and that group would be much more likely to frequent 538.

lolfly and his imaginary world.

my thesis is based on the assumption that the people who actually read 538 aren't likely to fall on the spectrum of complacency because the election is in the bag because they read it enough to understand that is 100% not true no matter what the odds say

having said that 538 and NYT were given exceptional credibility by the casual via MSM to the point that merely hearing in passing on CNN or MSNBC or insert MSM here that "538 says ____" "NYT says _____" without any context being offered would lead the casual to believe that it's over no matter what. i believe that bred complacency, or a greater willingness for a protest vote (see: trump, stein, johnson, harambe) because they're so certain clinton is going to win they didn't need to vote for her even if their preference was for clinton to be president over trump. when you're overwhelmingly inundated with polls being spewed by every network telling you clinton is a shoe-in to such an extent that the republican party spent the last month and a half of the campaign doing damage control operating on the assumption they were losing both the presidency and the senate, yes, that 100% breeds a non-zero (and probably a deciding percentage given how narrow the win was) amount of complacency among the winning side in advance

it's like how there were people who voted for brexit when they were actually against it happening simply because they were so assured by polls there was no chance of it happening so they could feel free to protest with their vote

Not sure that's a thesis so much as a rant. The brexit buyers' remorse does not seem to be repeated here. Seriously, have you seen anyone say they wish they hadn't voted for Trump?

https://twitter.com/Trump_regrets

Not clear how many are fake, and not exactly massive numbers, but there are some.

Jesus some of those are so ****ing tilting

"I voted for you hoping you would shut up and think about the impact of your words"
WHAT THE **** MADE YOU THINK HE WAS CAPABLE OF THAT

"I can't believe I voted for you! You lie more than Hillary!" - someone calling herself DeplorableBritt
You ****ing dense idiot he was lying the whole ****ing campaign what the **** were you watching

"Distance yourself from Bannon and get a real advisor"
Because there was no way we could have predicted Donald bringing in alt right imbeciles...

"I expected more professionalism"
Loooooooooolllllllllllllllllll

These are always fun.

Holy crap that whole interview is hot fire. Go Chris Wallace!

**** like that is why I like to bring up Republicans that at least speak out against Trump, even if their actions don't always follow.

That stuff is bigly important right now. The hardcore right is only going to listen to the right. They won't turn away (we aren't going to get many "I see the light" moments) but their loyalty can be shifted to more centrist people if 1) they exist in the modern GOP and 2) the people these imbiciles actually listen to start pushing them that way.

FoxNews sticking up for the mainstream media, even occasionally, is a very encouraging sign for me. I guess they don't want to become state run media either.

lol 100% minus 1 person at least.

and that person was me.

ofc, getting purged from the voter registration in ohio bc I hadnt voted in 6 years did contribute a bit.

I think I remember hearing that when obama went ham at foxnews, the rest of the media banded together to force him to include them. so, if that is true, they certainly should stick up for their brethren, tho it surprises me too.

lmao don is FED UP