I have even less compassion for Americans. It's not about that. Americans are probably the current WOAT per capita.

The response to this (from the guy I was responding to) was "Your position is totally political, stemming from your opposition to Trump. A less politically motivated person would allow time for some differing approaches to it to play out and see how the dust settles. Your assertion that he is going about it rapidly and without detailed analysis says it all. How would you know that? If YOU don't agree with it, it has to 'just not helpful', and 'likely actively harmful', right? I would point out to you that Hillary started her campaign aggressively in favor of TPP, and by voting day she was on record as opposing it. So, you tell me, when was she right and when was she wrong?"

Pretty amazing. I cite conservative-ish sources and have a fact based post and somehow it's about Hillary now. #interwebs.

Yeah my biggest fear about BRINGING JERBZ BACK is a massive drop in quality. Talentless, likely drug/alcohol addicted, dirt poor, factory worker humps in Detroit, Ohio, rural Pennsylvania, etc don't exactly inspire much confidence in product quality.

Will gladly just suck it up and pay more for stuff that gets taxed on way in if it's made better.

Selfishly, as a youngish person in quite a bit of healthy rate-locked debt some nice inflation would be GOAT.

Someone tell me I'm wrong but from what I'm hearing is if you have a green card from any of those 7 countries and if you took a vacation to say, Canada, you would be denied reentry

That can't possibly be true right?

Yes it is.

Also. Apparently the first two people detained in the US under the EO were translators for the US Army during the Iraq war. And they can't get back in. Sorta doesn't get much worse than that.

Sounds like it. And it's only going to get worse. And it's completely disgusting that we cannot accept Iraqi translators.

Btw the requirement for getting a green card is to give up residency elsewhere.

Time for some civil disobedience.

details details. Disko already assured us that this is AWESOME.

Just got an email from IU trying to help out our students that are affected. Impeach this idiotic mother****er

Even Dick Cheney sayin this is a bad idea.

Mattis, Pence, Ryan have all spoken out against it in the past and I do feel like Trump could be persuaded by them. So why didn't they try to persuade?

edit: as mw points out Cheney quote is old. Thought it was from yesterday or today.

The Dick Cheney quote is old. I'm sure he has changed his opinion by now because REASONS.

Uh, because they don't care. Was this just a rhetorical question?

This isn't true

You have to move to USA#1 and live here 6+ months of the year to keep the green card, but you keep your old passport, citizenship, and can keep a house or property back in the home country.

USA#1 has to be your primary residence unless you get some kind of waiver (not common unless you're working for USA#1).

I mean, yes that is true (and has been for a while re: executive orders). But if you think this is going to be what brings this on you're mistaken. Remember, Trump didn't take power through military coup. 60+ million people voted for him and millions more abstained from voting against him because they didn't care enough about him saying he's going to do EXACTLY THIS.

Don't think this is even going to be that unpopular. Americans really ****ing hate Muslims.

Correction, YOU really hate muslims

Delusional libtard continues to be massively clueless about the country he lives in and the people who inhabit it. More at 11.

Libtard says THIS will finally be the thing that sinks Trump in the polls. Oh wait that one doesn't work anymore.

They wouldn't have had to return to their home country. They could have been on a holiday in France. They'd still have to return to the US with their original passport and GC.

How is it "really good stuff"?

What do you think it's going to accomplish?

Bigot isn't actually a bigot. He's just WOKE and has the COURAGE to say what everyone's thinking. Or something about Bernie or DNC or emails idk

Ayo good **** tut

He likes that liberals hate it, and that's enough.

Trump killing it tho.