I guess it depends on how incompetent the Obama administration was about issuing the required reports to start the 60 day clock.

These things seem to be stuff Trump could have eliminated or changed on his own anyways but this law adds the little extra kick of preventing them from ever returning once the Democrats regain the office unless the future Congress also approves them.

No financial reg

Trump wouldn't have thought of this. Whoever has his ear is pure evil and is very, very, good.

great so even if trump goes, that dude's still there. #motherofgod.jpg

https://twitter.com/Stl_Manifest


worth a look and thought tonight

Would wager my entire net worth and lots of money that I could easily borrow for such a bet that I know more about the markets, options, other derivatives, risk management and portfolio exposure, stress testing portfolios, the adverse effects of "protective" regulations on small financial firms, and the implicit and explicit costs of regulations than she does.

Immensely saddening

this one is hard to understand and explain. You are a LEGAL PERMANENT resident of the United States and you cannot reenter. Part of being a green card holder is that you have to make the U.S. your permanent place of residence, which means you cannot have a permanent residence in another country. So now when you are denied entry, where exactly is one supposed to return?

For those who have had a green card for many years and just happen to be out of the country at the moment, now they are just SOL. just seems insane. Visas are one thing, but LPRs are completely different story. Also, some of these people are eligible to become US citizens, but yea gotta keep these terrorist out of the country.

You'd go back to your home country I guess. I think they can't stay outside USA#1 for more than six months each year without losing their green card. If that ban actually applies to green card holders it seems insane that it won't get blocked by a Federal judge within a few days.

You're right that you can't be gone for more than six months unless you apply for an extension.
And yes, it should get blocked by a judge, if true. Can't have people sever ties with former countries in order to get a green card and then deny them entry to their home because of their faith or where they originally lived.

sure you would go back to your home country, but if you have been living in the U.S. for many years, most your resources are in the U.S., and you have very little ties to the home country then you are absolutely screwed.

from some of the stuff that came out throughout the night it appears that the Department of Homeland Security is not really sure what to do in these cases. There were stories about people with green cards being held up for hours while CBP tried to figure out what to do. I saw somewhere that it is going on a "case by case" basis for right now as one green card holder was let after a long delay. more discretion weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Other stories of people in foreign countries boarding planes, and then being removed off the plane before takeoff because CBP ordered people of certain nationalities to be removed. just an absolute cluster****

Who does this apply? People trying to return from one of those 6 counties who are there right now? That would be reasonable to me.

If it's people from those countries originally who are just traveling somewhere else then that is really ****ed.

Just a thought but they could have tried not leaving the US to go back to Syria or Yemen or Iraq in the first place.

LAND OF THE FREE

everyone apparently


https://twitter.com/ThomasErdbrink/s...03066215854080

but i dont get why you think it's reasonable to been iranian students who have been home on winter break either

Because **** Iran that's why

or maybe not

https://twitter.com/erinmcunningham/...14927539781632

charming

wooderson, i'm curious to know if you've ever travelled outside of the united states? I find it really hard to believe someone can have so little compassion for other people having had the experience of meeting them in person.

His wife is Chilean.

It is precisely meeting people in person that has lead to my lack of compassion for them. Like that's literally the only reason for it.

remember when trump stans like thayer were like "mattis is good"

Random post I made on face today in response to a "are cheaper goods and free trade worth it for the middle class".......

I agree these are huge and complicated questions but I think the answer to your question is likely "yes". As in, most of those jobs go away anyways. NAFTA may well have been a net increase in jobs. Companies like GM cannot compete globally with US labor. And they sell far more cars outside the US than inside (~22% of car sales are domestic). Source: https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/...bal-sales.html

Also, whether we lost jobs to trade or technology is also a question.

https://www.ft.com/content/dec677c0-...5-873e61754ec6

It also isn't clear that service jobs pay worse:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst...-service-jobs/

And it isn't only US car companies that need trade. Ask Apple if they are cool without Chinese labor. The whole point of trade and economics is that things aren't zero sum. Side benefits such as a net migration of Mexican citizens FROM the US to Mexico over the last 5-years are very real.

Worth noting that things aren't just cheaper in the US than ~anywhere else in the world, they are better quality too. I doubt I need to elaborate in a Brazilian expat message group.

Fwiw the US Govt did an extensive review of the economic impact of NAFTA some years back and it came back slightly positive. I'd argue that the benefit of trade extends beyond pure economic impact as it's likely the largest force for world peace today. China is largely a non-issue on the global war stage precisely because of their huge trade dependencies.

I'm super concerned about not only what the President is doing but how rapidly and seemingly without detailed analysis he is going about it. And obviously making things personal with other global leaders, especially strong allies (and to be sure Mexico is that) is just not helpful and likely actively harmful.

oh you

Woody I would be interested in knowing what kind of events leds you to get to your belief system. You were traveling and a foreigner scared you?

Gotta protect 'Merica

Trump killing it, this ban is really good stuff.

I've never been back to Syria to visit family or anything but people I know who go back for long periods aren't even concerned.

Removing any incentive for natives to work with soldiers as interpreters surely is a very safe move