heh where are all these employers making it rain for their employees? I need to get in on that action.

I just got done last month arguing my employer's case (successfully) to the state value adjustment board to get him a savings of $100k on his property taxes and he thanked and rewarded me by buying himself a Land Rover.

Your 1 employer doesn't make a market.

No! just awesome I guess

Sorry I deleted my post because I realized you saved 'your employer' on property taxes.

No I do. I've only been paying attention to politics for a few weeks due to a Bernie YouTube video. A reliable source told me that only a great fool would think a president has control of economic cycles,so I'm curious by what mechanism can he significantly raise taxes on everyone.

And what would he raise them to? You didn't answer my question about whether or not your chart included the proposed elimination of premium copay and deductibles.

Thanks in advance.

We can talk about "markets" all day if you want but just because you give an employer a tax break doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna pass those savings on to his employees in the form of higher wages. He might, but he probably won't because the job market is still a sellers market just like it basically always has been.

I mean, you might as well go ahead and connect the cost of bananas at Winn Dixie to employee wages if you're gonna go down that road. "If Boss Hogg didn't have to pay that 10% markup on his bananas he could afford to pay his employees more!" True, yes. Meaningless, also yes.

I literally just posted his tax increases, broken down by income, in this thread. WRT how a bill gets made, I'm not your 4th grade teacher, and it's pretty obvious you're just trolling at this point. If you want to make a point, feel free.

This now the third time you've ignored my question about the chart you literally just posted.

In 4th grade I was learning like long division or something. I went to public school. I'm not trolling at all, I literally have no clue how a president Bernie Sanders would be able to set the tax rates.

the first part is in no way nonsensical. Cuts in after-tax income will affect consumption and can result in insolvency. It happens every day to people who take pay cuts, get too few hours in hourly work, fail to meet sales goals in commission based jobs, or have unexpected expenses.

What do you think it costs for a family of, lets say 5, to afford a modest house and the other listed expenses in Manhattan? SF? DC? Chicago?

Plenty of middle and upper class people are voting Bernie. I know some of them personally. They simply are fine with paying increased taxes as they support his policy goals and see it as a necessary evil.

Yes I know what deductions are, but I still have to pay social security (6.2%), Medicare (1.45%), state income tax (~5.5%). Right there I am at 13.15%. What should I be doing to get my federal rate down below 17%? I didn't even include property taxes because I made the choice to buy rather than rent. If my rate should really be much lower than that then I really really need to hire an accountant.

Not defending Republicans, but:

Repub econ policy is always called pro-business. It's pro-consumer imo.

If you want to raise wages, shut the border and making employing an illegal an imprisonable offense.

Sure, a restaurant entree would now cost $85 dollars but it would raise wages.

You're not giving an employer a tax break, you're giving every employer a tax break. For a an employee whose value added is $150,000, if the market rate is $70,000 before, why wouldn't it be close to $70,000 after?

This may not apply to minimum wage workers, as the wage floor may not be their market equilibrium wage. An increased minimum wage would force employers to pass on some of that savings to the employees.

Fyp

Right. Wages themselves arent a goal, or even a means to a goal, they are simply a side effect, a symptom. Trying to improve the economy by raising wages is like trying to win football games by having a bunch of rushing attempts. Employment rate is similar. The ideal employment rate is 0% and it would be easy to increase the employment rate to 100% by simply setting a maximum 20 hour work week (crazy right, I mean that could never happen...)

NH feeling the BERN

I'm still in stunned disbelief that Trump won the NH primary.

Hillary going strong on the vast right wing conspiracy.

trump's overall small % is highly relevant here.

Will anyone drop out by tomorrow or is everyone going to limp down to South Carolina for one last try?

You could hear the rest of the world collectively laughing if this happened.

Who is this current Republican president that Bernie is talking about?

He sounds terrible.

I told you NH doesn't give a **** about no Iowa cuckus.

Cruz coming in 3rd behind Kasich is glorious.

I'm firing on the Joe Show for the nomination at whatever odds 5Dimes posts tomorrow.

Bernie's gonna be awfully confused when he figures out that the most effective method of further enriching the wealthy is zero percent interest rates.

Bernie's foreign policy (terrorism and war thoughts) is actually pretty reasonable