I am against Hillary but do you really think the people making these statements see a difference.

Yeah

Maybe not you specifically, because the only thing they see from you on this website is Trump memes, but yeah, for the specific concept of someone who doesn't think Trump is a positive, sure

Yes I do if you read my next post

Though posting pro-Trump because you hate Hillary that much seems almost as indefensible.

This is the drug equivalent of "homosexuality isn't a choice" right? Namely, an argument made by morons who through no fault of their own accidentally happen to be on the right side of an argument and have no ability to think beyond the tip of their nose.

take a breather man

I'm not sure how many more times this argument can really be made, but if you are gonna make an "argument from real people are actually suffering in the world" then it is absolutely unequivocally unacceptable for you to spend more than 7 seconds per year discussing things that impact Americans. You don't get to condescend to thayer about living in the real world and having real principles when you spend your days arguing about yacht amenities. We can have intellectual but meaningless debates about American politics, or we can discuss issues that impact human beings who actually suffer and want and need and hurt. We cannot do both. American women don't make 75 cents on the dollar, they make 750 cents on the dollar. Or 7500 cents. Would it be more fair if they made 10000 cents on the dollar like American men do? Sure, maybe that would be more fair, like it would be more fair if any member of the country club could get Saturday AM tee times and not just base it on seniority. But there is no moral urgency to the tee time discussion. It's intellectual masturbation.

The fact that the narrative has been hijacked so that we all just tacitly agree that these are the issues that REALLY MATTER is just an example of our ****ing deplorability as Americans. It isn't even debatable that a 2 hr drive to find someone to give you a free abortion is an actual pressing issue facing women in the world. It's a joke. There is no difference between worrying about that and worrying about how much capital gains taxes are eroding your millions.

Thayer, where does this rank on the misinterpretation scale? I was being sincere:





FWIW, I don't think you're stupid or bigoted but I get super frustrated from time to time by you (to the point of saying things I regret) because you put forth no effort into explaining, for example, why having no government involvement in marriage is better than what we have now, and you never acknowledge people's arguments for why government involvement in marriage is better than nothing, and you never acknowledge that maybe including gays in marriage has more of a benefit to society than the damage to your particular ideological goals is increased by including gays in marriage.

This applies to basically every issue you've ever discussed about politics here. It's just, "magic beans are better than what you guys are talking about, and by the way you sniff your own farts. I think you're just saying this to score imaginary points." That's how you come across.

lol

Ivanka is so insanely beautiful

Wait, what? I feel like a fair amount of unpacking would be beneficial here. Because it seems like this combination of words could very reasonably mean very different things, depending on where you're coming from.

this dancing is ****ing creepy

The chick in the house-band in red on the left.. is a goddess. . I'd like to sniff somethin

Something about ivanka's nose where it meets her mouth is a lil pinched

"Homosexuality isn't a choice" is a ****ing idiotic argument and always has been. It suggests that gays deserve equal rights, but only because they can't help it. The reason gay marriage should be legal, and it should be illegal to discriminate against homosexuals, is because go **** yourself that's why. Not because those por silly gays just can't help themselves they were born that way. It implies that if we had done some experiment or some DNA test and shown that, in fact, it WAS a choice, then we no longer had to respect homosexuals. It's stupid and short sighted.

Similar to "weed is totally different from heroin ergo it should totes be legal brooooo"

Mikey Pence itt

anyway, think wayyyyy more ppl use the equality argument than not a choice, of course that doesn't work much better

see: women wanting equal pay/rights, coloured folks not wanting to be shot, etc

Chad,

It's because I don't even accept the premise of the debate. Of course there should be same-sex marriage but it shouldn't be the government's business in the first place. I feel like I articulated my position pretty clearly in that thread.

I feel like you generally interpret me correctly.

@vhawk

It's stupid and short sighted but it worked and I think I'd have fewer rights and protections if it hadn't been proliferated.

It's a great slogan and a great counter to all the propaganda and slogans about choosing to be perverted because you're evil or your gay 3rd grade teacher wasn't fired and imprisoned.

As far as an intellectual debate goes, sure it misses the point.

How does it fit with weed/heroin? Both should be legal? Or weed should be legal regardless of heroin?

Yeah, well if you didn't mean to go any further than saying "my ideology will make things better" then yes, you articulated yourself just fine. But it comes off really poorly when you can't explain why.

there shouldn't even be governments, maaaaannnnn

Damn everyone mad about that SNL writer tweeting out a joke about Barron. People still can't take a joke apparently.

I think the argument boils down to 'how dare you make that judgment'. The reason weed and heroin should both be legal is because they are things out in the world that we shouldn't make value judgments on. People should be free to do whatever to themselves.

72,

I mean we've already had this winded conversation before and it wasn't really about "there shouldn't even be governments man". Feel free to reread the discussion.

You keep saying this. Prioritizing your taxes in the face of everything else Trump stood for vis a vis his opponent is an incredibly selfish act.

I grunched so this is the first time I read this.

That's not even close to the only thing you said. You literally said the Walmart thing you're objecting to, and you also rejected including gays in government marriage because it was an expansion of government in marriage.