Lol even more awesome

This thread is the best

America still undefeated and undisputed goat

I loled hard

Any Michigan peeps know former governor Jennifer Granholm? Caught her at the end of this CNN thing. Seemed super sharp and likeable.

repub supporters are not necessarily evil. really, only an infinitesimal amount are. but the repub leaders are most certainly evil.

and your read on the privilege of those itt is pretty hilarious. you have no clue what ppl itt or on this forum have seen, experienced, or lived in. the world is not so isolated that there is no overlap.

It's an area everyone could learn a thing or two from each other, but go ahead keep on making everything a left vs right good vs evil thing, hopefully they'll eventually realize how dumb they are and start agreeing with you and the great candidates you choose to present to them and support.

The difference in the election was lower and middle class Obama voters switching away from a party and candidate that couldn't even pretend to pander towards them, and you're using that to write off everyone that isn't completely in line with you as dumb evil racists while holding a moral and intellectual superiority for supporting Clinton.

you gotta show ur work on the bolded tho.

MTV News is still a thing? A woman from there is currently on the O'Donnell show on MSNBC

How many years is it going to take for "but how will you ever get people to vote liberal if you call them idiots" to die the horrible death it deserves? Nobody writing posts on 2+2 was attempting to have an impact on the election results in doing so, but it seems to be a favorite pivot for people who don't like Trump voters being called idiots, yet also don't want to actually have to argue they're not.

There are a lot of people that voted trump purely on the dream those jobs are coming back. Bill Clinton understood this when he ran, Trump got this, Hillary didn't listen to bill (to be fair, she probably tuned him out a long time ago)

They will learn they were all wrong since that is temporary at best but I guess trump has 4 years and oculd borrow whatever the hell he wants to make that happen even if nobody wants coal or is buying a new car or wants the highway to have a toll owned by some corp every 30 miles or wants the water pipeline to be owned by a corp instead of the town so it's way more expensive.

A dream sells people better than all the logic in the world and it's pretty clear hillary would've been a terrible president herself.

About a year ago they hired some really good younger people, think they even took one or two from grantland.

Wheat,telling people their jobs aren't going to come back and giving them detailed plans for new, clean energy jobs was a bad idea compared to lying to these people? How is this your argument?

When Obama won, the right doubled down on hatred, racism and that got trump elected. When trump won, the left is supposed to apologize.

I think the bolded is very much correct. What is still undecided is whether those voters were voting on racial motivations - there is a lot of evidence that suggests they did.

You may be right. Most wrongs can be legislated away, but not all of them. For this type of government to work, people have to respect the spirit of it as well. And if President Rusty Staub (le grande orange) refuses to respect the spirit or intention of the fundamentals of American government, even where it perhaps can't be spelled out in such a manner that his behavior would be illegal (yet still unethical), then there's nothing anyone can do and this type of government is effed.

But a hearty LOL at comparing liberal vs. conservative political battles/views/theories to what Le Grande Orange is doing here. Come on now son. Er, Dr. Son. I hated the GWB presidency and just about everything it stood for, but that was for the most part mere politics.

ya I want the numbers

It's not strictly about being smarter than conservatives about how to organize society. It's about giving a **** about marginalized groups. So, if you've figured out everything, how about you summarize how Jim Crow ended and how that fits into your narrative of how to get southern conservatives to all of a sudden want to embrace equality and civil rights for all?

I take solace in the fact that most of your wives boyfriends voted Trump so your "kids" hopefully will inherit brains better equipped to see through the liberal bs media spin.

she embarrassed herself immeasurably in the lead up to the election by guaranteeing that Michigan would go Hillary

she was probably going to be DNC Chair under Hillary, but now I guess she's gonna be a professional guest on CNN/MSNBC

You think you are going to win Hillary supporters to your side with insults like this?

this is one of their writers from yesterday:

Don't have to, we won.

i mean, im pretty sure this dude is joking. hes the guy who defends the worst of the woat in oot aka mylt and tbags and complains that ppl are way too hard on them.

so ya, mebbe this is just flying way over my head, but this is def some sort of level.

Yeah, if letting more people participate in particular institutions is "smashing" them, what the hell is Trump doing?

She's incredible.

But someone once told me she enjoys the smell of her own farts more than Trump enjoys the smell of other people's farts. So, yeah, gonna pass.

People who voted for Trump didn't vote for him? Interesting take.

Anyone who voted for Trump directly supported him. Now they may have done it because they love Trump or because they hated Hills but ultimately they're responsible for the extra drop in the Trump bucket.

Your take is maybe they weren't crazy about Trump or even outright disliked him but they were unhappy with status quo the last 8 years and/or hated Hills so they took the mystery box instead of another 4 years of Dems. Okay, I really don't think these people looked at the mystery box downside but I can empathize with a factory worker in a flyover state who thinks he lost his job to Mexico and Trump's going to bring it back. I believe he thought in good faith a Trump vote was a vote in his best interest, and not for hateful reasons.

Those people's votes are one of the main reasons Trump won but ultimately they represent a pretty small portion of Trump voters. In my anecdotal experience, most people are reacting like Wooderson. Basically eating up the LIBERAL TEARS and SAFE SPACE VIOLATING, Hillary is a criminal & lock her up, and taking great delight at triggered northeast liberal college students. They don't actually like Trump, many dislike him as a person, but think Hillary was worse, but think it won't be that bad because most of the likely negative effects of a Trump presidency....won't actually affect them. You can't really empathize with these people because all they're doing is taking glee in the suffering of people they dislike while handwaving away the consequences because they are unlikely to be of consequence to them. Then of course we have the outwardly hateful racists, homophobes, xenophobes etc all celebrating that all reasonable people on both sides recognize as idiots, so those aren't really worth debating imo.

I'm not quite on the Hoya doomsday train yet, but I definitely have a bleaker outlook than I did 2 months ago. So what's the solution? I'll admit I don't have one, but I'm not viewing all Trump voters as deplorable garbage either. The outcome has already happened though, and a petty, dangerous man is now in power. I'm not sure what difference it makes in empathizing with that factory worker since he's going to figure out his job is gone with or without Trump soon enough, and that won't change where we are now.

Lol oot and all but you're way off.