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01-05-2017 , 04:57 PM
i like bernie and all but this whole "got absolutely torched in the primary but would have won the presidential election easily" thing is basically move up where they respect your raises
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01-05-2017 , 05:01 PM
The whole "we never looked at the DNC server" thing is a bad look. Not clear if it was necessary but still.
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01-05-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
i like bernie and all but this whole "got absolutely torched in the primary but would have won the presidential election easily" thing is basically move up where they respect your raises


Indeed when you ignore all context it's very similar. Anyway it's a pointless argument now
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01-05-2017 , 05:15 PM
To be fair, after the hyper accuracy of Berniemath during the primaries, we should give a little more deference to the prognostications of Bernie fans
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01-05-2017 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
I don't think anybody who voted for Hillary is going to stay home or vote someone not D because COMMUNISM. At least when the R is Trump.
No, but from what I'm reading they'll stay home because both candidates are RAGING RACISTS/SEXISTS (i.e. white men).
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01-05-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by El Rata
i like bernie and all but this whole "got absolutely torched in the primary but would have won the presidential election easily" thing is basically move up where they respect your raises
Sure until you realize that ability to win a Dem primary and ability to win a general election have very little to do with each other in 2016. The primary is a voting contest among people who are all going to vote for whichever one wins anyway.
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01-05-2017 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
republicans would have destroyed bernie on socialism and communism and all that.
More than they destroyed Clinton on "insert random thing here" and "insert thing #2"? Why?
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01-05-2017 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Biesterfield
maybe possibly Virginia but that is it imo
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Maybe Nevada.
So....his floor was 7 more electoral votes than Clinton?

Last edited by vhawk01; 01-05-2017 at 07:06 PM. Reason: im assuming he wins WI and MI because I'm not a moron
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01-05-2017 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Obama with two pieces published today that make the comparison with "all I am doing is repeating what Assange says and letting the people decide" even more discouraging than ever.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ple?CMP=twt_gu

http://harvardlawreview.org/?p=4535
These are great reads, thanks
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01-05-2017 , 09:57 PM
Trump is going to make good on BUILDING THAT WALL

And who's gonna pay for it???

Spoiler:
The US taxpayer ldo


http://ktla.com/2017/01/05/trump-to-...-wall-sources/
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01-05-2017 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Btw no way dude sits on sidelines. Will be interesting to see in what capacity he reenters public service.
history's greatest podcaster

only semi joking
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01-05-2017 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Obama with two pieces published today that make the comparison with "all I am doing is repeating what Assange says and letting the people decide" even more discouraging than ever.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ple?CMP=twt_gu

http://harvardlawreview.org/?p=4535
It is highly depressing going from a guy publishing articles in a law review to a guy who can only communicate in sentence fragments.
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01-06-2017 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
More than they destroyed Clinton on "insert random thing here" and "insert thing #2"? Why?
bc repubs are better at the game. and russians.
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01-06-2017 , 10:52 AM
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
being a movie star-and that was season 1 compared to season 14. Now compare him to my season 1. But who cares, he supported Kasich & Hillary

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
Wow, the ratings are in and Arnold Schwarzenegger got "swamped" (or destroyed) by comparison to the ratings machine, DJT. So much for....

lol
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01-06-2017 , 11:23 AM
a perma-butthurt president can't be a bad thing can it?
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01-06-2017 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
bc repubs are better at the game. and russians.
Right but that's what I meant. More than repubs and Russians "destroyed" clinton too. Saying they will destroy Bernie on socialism may be true but it's not like they just left clinton alone because she wasn't a socialist. The question is whether "socialist" is more persuasive than "corrupt." It may be and in the 50s or 70s it was but it isn't obvious it would be now
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01-06-2017 , 11:45 AM
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01-06-2017 , 12:03 PM


its totally the media that is dishonest here

sad!
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01-06-2017 , 12:06 PM
So if I understand it we've gone from the wall being 2 billion to 5 billion to 10 billion to 15 billion BUT MEXICO WILL PAY to we're gonna pay. BUT MEXICO WILL PAY US BACK

Good work, cucks
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01-06-2017 , 12:07 PM
So the taxpayers pay for the wall then Mexico pays for it. Do the taxpayers get that money back or what
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01-06-2017 , 12:11 PM
man a lot of stupid and backward things are gonna happen just cuz a few million people like bad stand up comic who says what 'we're all thinking'
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01-06-2017 , 12:15 PM
Before we even worry about who is going to pay for it, I'd like to see a simple plan that shows exactly where the planned wall will be built and what material it will be made out of.
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01-06-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bazooka87
So the taxpayers pay for the wall then Mexico pays for it. Do the taxpayers get that money back or what
he didn't get to be the king of debt without plying his craft
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01-06-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
Obama with two pieces published today that make the comparison with "all I am doing is repeating what Assange says and letting the people decide" even more discouraging than ever.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ple?CMP=twt_gu

http://harvardlawreview.org/?p=4535
I'm not as sold as many people might be after reading this.

Whist reading I was thinking "Man if only we could get someone in a position of power who understand the problem this well. Oh wait."

While it's certainly a step in the right direction to have a sitting president shine a ray of light, however small, on the egregiousness that is the US Prison State it's discouraging considering there still is an order of magnitude more inmates in Federal prison than there was when I was born. That's a 1000% increase against a population increase of ~40%.

Obama is (correctly) stating he's the first president to leave office with less people federally incarcerated than when he began and attributing it to his policy actions; but it's clear that the general trend has been a leveling off of the growth in the US prison population since 2008 both federal and state, where the Executive has very little if any affect. (Outside of the bully pulpit, which sadly O did not avail himself of imo)

IOW How about less spiking of the football about being the tallest midget and more actual reform.

Maybe we are hitting some sort of right wall the % of citizens that it's politically acceptable to jail, or, more likely imo, is budget constraints since 08 are leading to more plea deals less incarceration.

At any rate it's not obvious that his policy's had much effect. And even if we grant that they did, for someone who seemingly has a grasp on the magnitude of the problem it's super frustrating to see how little he did.



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01-06-2017 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MEb
Before we even worry about who is going to pay for it, I'd like to see a simple plan that shows exactly where the planned wall will be built and what material it will be made out of.
The best material
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