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Originally Posted by Victor
well, this was one of the more clear cut situations. and ppl love anecdotes and often respond to them.
the dem primary is not so cut and dry. many ppl preferred hil bc they thought she would do better in the national. bernie was a fringe candidate, esp to older voters that lived through the cold war. I think he gets crushed by trump.
There's no way he does worse against Trump than she did. Bernie beat her in Michigan and Wisconsin so right there that gives him a strong argument for being able to possiblly flip things. The stayes she performed strongest against Bernie in, are all states that she lost to Trump. And it's not like Bernie would have lost CA or NY.
Are there any states that Hillary won that you think Bernie would have lost?
Trump also would have had to campaign differently since even people who dislike Bernie still kinda like him. He couldn't just outright bash him like he could do with her. He didn't have literally dozens of warts and scandals and people haven't despised his every fiber for the last 20 years
This isn't hindsight. This is what many Bernie supporters were screaming during the primary. And they were dismissed as Bernie Bros and admonished by the "grown ups" who are now still jacking themselves off over being able to call themselves hurr durr the only adults in the room when it comes to foreign policy...despite being delusional and thinking they live in fairytale land.
Hillary benefitted from a massive advantage of having all the pledged superdelegates early and by crushing Bernie in the early voting, mostly black (on the dem side), bible belt states, which are states she was never ever going to beat Trump in anyway.
Most of the voters in those early states were massively voting against their self interest and if the NYT would have interviewed them, their reasons for voting for Hillary would have been just as stupid as the uninformed kid with cancer who we should all be laughing at I guess.
It was also declared racist and insensitive by #teamgrownup to point out that those people were voting against their own self interest. But now that dumb uninformed white people did it, **** it. Especially since the dumb vote went so much against the good guys this time.
Then later on people voted for Hillary because she was winning because... reasons, most notably because they thought the fact that she was winning meant she was a better candidate.