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09-26-2020 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
I think she's just the who-would-you-rather-have-a-beer-with vote. Might not even know what the ACA is

I'm not reading into it too much, but I am reading into Trump ads attacking Bernie or trying to group Biden with Bernie. then very online victor (who's not voting) comes in here to ***** about Biden expressing that he believes we should expand access to medical care. f'oh
so she's into sexual assault? because thats what she is getting with the "who would you rather have a beer with and choosing trump.. lol

she actually likes the racism or at BEST doesn't think its a deal breaker..

also progressive policies like Bernie's poll really ****ing well with people so not sure where you're getting that from, but go off i guess...
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09-26-2020 , 11:58 PM
extremely online guy avatard for victor!

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09-27-2020 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Joe Biden ran a campaign explicitly to deny people health care. he even pledged to veto a bill that would actually provide health care.

regardless, your argument is totally incoherent. voters hate Bernies policies. Joe Biden just tweeted a Bernie policy. I guess the voters know he is lying like I do.
Just to be clear Biden isn't doing ****, it is the DNC and Dem establishment who have been calling all the ******ed shots since Obama left office. Not that Obama didn't do stupid **** when he had his juice.
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09-27-2020 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
i talked to a non college educated voter in florida who identifies as a democrat the other day.

she says she's voting for trump because "i just hate the bernie sanders psycho group" (apparently she doesn't know the term bernie bro)

this is why trump still runs attack ads on biden that are just attacking bernie sanders.

the national electorate doesn't like bernie or his ideas. this has been proven time and time again (yhtsi). props to joe for doing his best to appease the left without turning off moderates. it won't always work, but he's 50/50 in the most deplorable state in the country according to nate's model. let's get this done.
Sounds like a massive indictment on Biden. Or that person is really ****ing stupid. Or both.
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09-27-2020 , 06:41 AM
i IdEnTiFy As DeMoCrAt

Give me a ****ing break
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09-27-2020 , 08:53 AM
Dems can only ever campaign towards Florida woman aka the mythical pudding brain who swings both ways but whose political compass is only ever a micrometer to the left of whoever is in charge of the Nazi party. This is 100% not a disingenuous cover for the fact that Dems are themselves soulless corporate vampires who believe in absolutely nothing.
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09-27-2020 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Joe Biden ran a campaign explicitly to deny people health care. he even pledged to veto a bill that would actually provide health care.

regardless, your argument is totally incoherent. voters hate Bernies policies. Joe Biden just tweeted a Bernie policy. I guess the voters know he is lying like I do.
people like the idea of change more than they like actual change. sucks, but it's true. once you explain to people the implications of m4a, there isn't support for it. that's why team biden phrases that tweet they way they did.

Spoiler:
yhtsi
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09-27-2020 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
people like the idea of change more than they like actual change. sucks, but it's true. once you explain to people the implications of m4a, there isn't support for it. that's why team biden phrases that tweet they way they did.

Spoiler:
yhtsi

Before we had literal Nazis in charge this was an ideology known as conservatism.

Maybe instead of crying about “the left” being poor team players all the time you would keep some sanity by admitting to yourself that you don’t actually share the same politics?
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09-27-2020 , 11:14 AM
And lol at “explain the implications of M4A,” who is doing that exactly?
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09-27-2020 , 01:25 PM
The implications of m4a being that healthcare will cost less overall and everyone including poor minorities will be covered...

Yeah I can see the part that some people disagree with.
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09-27-2020 , 05:48 PM
Whoops

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09-27-2020 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Andro
Whoops

"Why do you expect him to pay taxes, he gives all his money away!!!"-Chuds

Solid timing on this, it won't play well with moderates and suburbanites in the rust belt. Biden can and will hit it on Tues.
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09-27-2020 , 07:03 PM
it's a corrupt system and only he can fix it
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09-27-2020 , 07:22 PM
Makes me feel like a real sucker for sending the IRS $18k in July.

Trump has basically paid nothing every year of his life and the couple years in 2005-06 where he couldn't wash his income away with "losses" and business expenses he then gets a $70M+ refund in 2009-10 (Thx Obama!) to somehow recover the money he had paid in 2005-06.

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09-27-2020 , 08:58 PM


Spoiler:
yhtsi
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09-27-2020 , 09:35 PM
Thoughts and prayers
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09-27-2020 , 11:38 PM
Man, just realized there was a real chance that it could have been $350
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09-28-2020 , 12:32 AM
Trump inherited $200 million and pays zero in taxes.

Drain the swamp = Help out my wealthy friends and convince the uneducated and racist I'm on their team.
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09-28-2020 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ut2010
Trump inherited $200 million and pays zero in taxes.

Drain the swamp = Help out my wealthy friends and convince the uneducated and racist I'm on their team.
He got about half a billion if I recall after his father passed if I recall the Pulitzer winning NYT article right plus untold tens or hundreds of millions of untaxed gifts before Fred Sr died.
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09-28-2020 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ut2010
Trump inherited $200 million and pays zero in taxes.

Drain the swamp = Help out my wealthy friends and convince the uneducated and racist I'm on their team.
Obvious reminder is obvious: You can't get a job as a contractor for the DoD with excessive debt because you'll fail a security clearence check. They consider it a pressure point that could be leveraged to get you reveal sensitive info (if your job gives you access to it). Trump is the President...
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09-28-2020 , 01:22 PM
The Pulitzer winning NYT article from a couple years ago essentially revealed and documented that the Trump Organization had about 3 ways of valuing their real estate holdings. Market value of "X" which is what someone would actually pay for it, Tax assessed value which was often 0.1X or even negative, and if they were applying for loans using real estate as collateral it'd be valued at 2X or more.

Thus if Trump got $200M in inheritance which was taxed at that value it was worth enormously more on the open market which was proven when he sold most, but not all his inherited properties for nearly $1B only a couple years after receiving them.
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09-28-2020 , 01:43 PM
The grifter in chief

So what country does he owe all these loans coming due to?
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09-28-2020 , 01:53 PM
Unknown but most likely Saudi and Russia.
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09-28-2020 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
it's a corrupt system and only he can fix it
What else do you expect in Joe Biden’s America?
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09-29-2020 , 03:51 PM
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Under Biden's healthcare plan, a 27-year-old making 50k per year would need to spend 23% of their post-tax income on insurance costs before their private insurer began pitching in.

very kool stuff!
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