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04-15-2018 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
well, yes ofc if the police are cleared of wrongdoing (by the very system that they are a part of) then ofc they acted properly and without discrimination. I am sure that tamir rice's family rests easy knowing that.
I am skeptical of government agencies as well. Hence my general belief in not relying on them for things.

This is a good meta story of how a bunch of people just acting slightly out of line can lead to a bad result.

Last edited by pwnsall; 04-15-2018 at 10:39 AM.
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04-15-2018 , 11:13 AM
No, by your own admission it’s an example of racism in action by both management and the police.
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04-15-2018 , 11:27 AM
I mean, she proly really had to go. you really want to deny someone the bathroom when it is a necessary function? thats just cruel. typical cruel libs.
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04-15-2018 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty
No, by your own admission it’s an example of racism in action by both management and the police.
Well, yeah, but only using the fact I know people are racist from data and junk (at least for the police part). Not anything that's legally admissable.

If I see everything as racist because I know people are racist it isn't exactly an accurate counting mechanism.
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04-15-2018 , 11:43 AM
Nah dog you knew it was racist because you, like nearly everyone, understand no part of it would happen to a white person.
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04-15-2018 , 11:49 AM
surprised that someone raised by wolves would be aware of "data and junk" and also able to comprehend "accurate counting mechanism(s)"

learn something every day.
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04-15-2018 , 11:51 AM
To be clear what no part of it means: That the police decided to arrest, that 4 reinforcements were called in to support the original four(!) cops, that the dude the victims were waiting for showed up in the middle of the arrest but the police continued, that the police kept them in jail til 1:30am, that they weren’t allowed in the restroom in the first place, that there was a 9-1-1 call, that a white woman was admitted to the restroom under identical circumstances at the same basic time, that they apparently weren’t even directly asked to leave or that they might’ve been asked to leave *at all*. The whole world understands these are impossible things to happen to white people.

But your key takeaway is that people (ya know, people! Like, just anyone!) getting “out of line” can lead to a bad result. Gotcha.
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04-15-2018 , 12:06 PM
Yeah exactly, lots of small mistakes!!! And yeah if the woman called the cops on white people and pushed the incident I imagine they may have gotten arrested.


As long as we're just making things up.


I only said that was a possible takeaway. Doesn't mean there could not be others.

I agree with basically everything you said outside of the 4 cops plus backup rhetoric.

Last edited by pwnsall; 04-15-2018 at 12:13 PM.
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04-15-2018 , 12:10 PM
Lol “mistakes”
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04-15-2018 , 12:13 PM
I'm kind of amazed we don't have more black people going on mass shooting sprees to kill white people because that reaction to casual, everyday racism would be something I could empathize with. I'd imagine interacting with pwnsall IRL would be an understandable trigger for something like that.
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04-15-2018 , 12:32 PM
BD,

I know. Did you see the video of the black high school kid just laying out the kid who called him ni**er. Like, hard to get too upset about it.
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04-15-2018 , 01:00 PM
I did not see that video, but I think the Florida "stand your ground" law could be improved by making it legal for any black person to shoot a white person who throws the n-word at them.
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04-15-2018 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
Yeah exactly, lots of small mistakes!!!
So what kind of punishments do you think the makers of these mistakes deserve?
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04-15-2018 , 01:12 PM
Escalating a complete nothingburger of an incident into that large of a police response is exactly how innocent people get shot for no good reason. The police's reaction was far from a small mistake.
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04-15-2018 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
I did not see that video, but I think the Florida "stand your ground" law could be improved by making it legal for any black person to shoot a white person who throws the n-word at them.


Being charged with assault and battery for winning a schoolyard fight too convincingly.
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04-15-2018 , 02:30 PM
That Dan Henderson style shot after the throw. Jesus H.
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04-15-2018 , 02:39 PM
Absolutely incredible.

I’m usually an advocate of the whole sticks and stones may break my bones ethos, but in this case reacting violently up to and including killing (not just whoever said the word but any spectators who laughed) should be an affirmative defense.

Amazing the insidious degree to which white culture has infected the “justice” system and cast a pall over notions of common decency and respect for our fellow human beings.
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04-15-2018 , 02:43 PM
So refreshing to read (most of) the comments to that tweet that tacitly endorse my position.

I’m not exactly holding my breath for Bernie or any of the other GOP-lite Democrats to have the balls to actually speak to this blasphemy of a charge.

Taking down confederate flags and statues is apparently as far as they’re willing to stick out their necks.
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04-15-2018 , 03:02 PM
It’s a SUPER local story so far. I haven’t seen a single national outlet run anything on it.

Meanwhile, also in South Carolina, a Republican congressman clearly broke the law by brandishing/showing a gun in public illegally But while any poor person would go to jail, the DA decided not to press charges because “he didn’t have bad intent”. Ahhh the selective use of intent. Something that wasn’t extended to the black woman who gets 5-years for accidentally filling a provisional ballot illegally on the advice of a poll worker.
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04-15-2018 , 03:30 PM
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It’s a SUPER local story so far. I haven’t seen a single national outlet run anything on it.
Yeah, I tried to look into it after viewing the clip and there isn't a lot on there. None of the reports mention what the fight was even about or what the body slammed kid said. The only place I saw that info is in the Twitter comments, some of which might be from people who were actually there.

But, as far as I can tell, the video clip is really all we have of the story. Any links where the lead up to the fight is reported?
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04-15-2018 , 03:33 PM
Nope. Saw same stuff as you likely did. Commentaries from people claiming to know say it was an N-bomb, fight ensued and this was the end of it. But man that finish is so video game it’s hard to imagine it won’t catch on.
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04-15-2018 , 03:34 PM
Just saw that incredibly the regional Starbucks manager today said the employee did nothing wrong. If I was a regional manager I’d sure have read my CEO’s statement before saying something like that.
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04-15-2018 , 03:48 PM
Didn't really need another reason not to go to Starbucks, but thanks
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04-15-2018 , 06:01 PM
It's amazing to me that these mega corps ALWAYS seem to **** these situations up. The airline CEO who defended violently dragging a passenger off a plane comes to mind.
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04-15-2018 , 06:23 PM
Why didn't the employee just tell them "buy something or leave/wait outside"? Happens hundreds of times a day in restaurants. Just say something and they would have probably bought a coffee, why call the cops?
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