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03-17-2018 , 11:11 AM
Nah still in better shape longterm than with a Hillary win. Hillary win doesnt result in the BLUE WAVE thats coming in November.


The actual reason WAAF isnt because people didnt vote for Hillary. Its because even when we all elect a bunch of Democrats everywhere, theyll still probably buck to billionaire interests and we'll possibly get zero actual progress.
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03-17-2018 , 11:35 AM
I was a Bernie supporter who criticized him heavily for his trade policy. Bernie certainly not perfect but we need dems who will actually push progressive policies when elected.
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03-17-2018 , 11:59 AM
I haven’t looked into it deeply but I’ve heard from people who know and are intelligent on this stuff that the rollback of Dodd frank is not a big deal and aimed more toward small banks

But someone chime in if that is not correct
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03-17-2018 , 12:04 PM
If it was aimed at small banks they’d have written it that way and excluded large banks from the new lesser requirements.
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03-17-2018 , 12:09 PM
In exempts institutions under $250 billion in assets from a bunch of scrutiny.

Countrywide was $210 billion.
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03-17-2018 , 12:10 PM
The volcker rule is pretty ineffective in practice anyway. It looks nice on paper but that’s about it

In any event all of the biggest banks that are truly systemically important are still over the threshold
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03-17-2018 , 12:44 PM
Well, if there's anyone I think we should listen to on the issue of financial regulation it's a Wall Street employee
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03-17-2018 , 01:21 PM
Choice A: cup of coffee, choice of milk and sugar

Choice B: cup of coffee, thrown in your face

CLARK: Man I am not a fan of almost boiling coffee thrown in my face but choice A is basically 60% of Choice B. We really should move to mostly iced coffee anyway, like they do in RIO.

TUT: The more coffee thrown in people’s faces the better. Humans are inherently evil scumbags so the more deaths and permanent disfigurements the better. We truly are a scourge on the planet.

THAYER: Looooool, the government shouldn’t tell us how we get coffee.

ASPOKER: Imagine thinking that getting handed a cup of coffee is a good thing

TUQ: Hey guys haven’t posted in awhile but let’s cool it. I personally don’t discuss coffee at all because it’s not very fun, but let’s keep it civil in here.

VICTOR: jfc u ppl are fkn morons. U legit want burning coffee thrown at u?

CDL: I support the free trade of coffee but I’m unsure of the merits of standardizing a single serving method. While I would not certainly not appreciate scalding my eyes with hot coffee, if someone wants to pay for that, I don’t think I would have a problem with it. Does anyone have a link to studies about the effects of coffee being thrown in your face?

72OFF: *posts tweet about a man suffering third degree facial coffee burns* RIP USA, so much winning

CLARK: wow, you can’t criticize anything these days. Btw it’s funny how quiet all the Choice A supporters are. Please note that after the horrible burns suffered by the man above he had milk and sugar poured on his writhing body which is the same moronic option they supposedly wanted. Where is all the cheering?
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03-17-2018 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
The actual reason WAAF isnt because people didnt vote for Hillary. Its because even when we all elect a bunch of Democrats everywhere, theyll still probably buck to billionaire interests and we'll possibly get zero actual progress.
This is correct. Also, people conveniently forget that a larger percentage of Hillary 08 primary voters did not vote for Obama, compared to Bernie 16 primary voters who did not vote for Hillary.

People are so absorbed in the hysterical R/D paradigm, they'd be better served to think about politics in terms of wealth and power structures.
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03-17-2018 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Biesterfield
I haven’t looked into it deeply but I’ve heard from people who know and are intelligent on this stuff that the rollback of Dodd frank is not a big deal and aimed more toward small banks

But someone chime in if that is not correct
Not correct. The (mis)characterization of "small" and "community" banks in this context is, in the nicest terms, propaganda.
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03-17-2018 , 01:43 PM
Mullen,

A+++++

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03-17-2018 , 01:43 PM
Mullen,

A+.
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03-17-2018 , 01:57 PM
HOF post
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03-17-2018 , 02:23 PM
Clear POTY.
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03-17-2018 , 02:33 PM
Change A to coffee with piss and my first response to “I don’t want either of these coffee options” and it works better.
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03-17-2018 , 02:37 PM
mullen
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03-17-2018 , 02:53 PM
like they do in RIO is a great touch
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03-17-2018 , 02:59 PM
nah, it's perfect, post better if that's upsetting
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03-17-2018 , 03:03 PM
Mullen deserves credit for his restraint. Would've been low-hanging fruit to throw in a half page Hoya post in there
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03-17-2018 , 03:25 PM
Never watched Madow or Hannity.

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty


My feeling is that anyone who doesn’t totally toe the Super Prog/Bernie line in here is reflexively lol’d as a Centrist or Neolib. Shrugemoji

This makes people here or in the Twitterverse think I’m like some form of super centrist when in reality no one in the real world would hear my views and call me anything other than a hyper lib.

I think Bernie’s views on trade are lol, absolutely naive on foreign policy, and unrealistic about how broader economic policy works, even as I largely agree with the idea of Bernie’s two/three non-trade talking domestic points (Health Care, 2-years JuCo free, increased taxes on rich) and am even further left on the social justice/equality platform.

Btw it’s amazing how quiet all the Bernie supporters in here are as Trump implements basically exactly the same moronic trade platform that Bernie wanted. Where is all the cheering?
While an excellent dig, I think it's only fair to point out:

*None of the Bernie Bros ever even talked about his "trade platform", let alone touted it. I believe the strongest pro-voice for it was, "meh".
*We could *probably* have expected Bernie to have, you know, discussed it with someone other than a single kook economic troll before unveiling it really half-assed (catching his own staff and congress completely off-guard) and all. I think it perfectly fine to be offended by this rollout even if you *like* the policy.
*I expect his top economic adviser would *not* have resigned as a result?
*It just generally could have been expected to not look like a chaotic ****show of a rollout largely intended to deflect news of Russian collusion/porn star affair/WH staff turnover/various graft/etc.


Mind you, I was pro-Hillary on her merits even in the primaries and would gladly take her (in office) over any other likely dem in 2020 (that's called faint praise). I found Bernie's stance on trade and economics/foreign policy terrible and pretty much a dealbreaker--along with what I assume would be devastating opposition research. I mean, I obviously would have voted for him in the general.

Here in Alabama, I don't really have to worry about being perceived as anything other than hyper-mega-liberal. Now, when we move to Atlanta...
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03-18-2018 , 07:29 AM
Legit lold at that mullen post
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03-18-2018 , 12:49 PM
Ya it's ridiculous that holiday even needs to point out that Bernie supporters were motivated by his positions on health care, college, workers rights and progressive social policies for poors and downtrodden.

Most didn't give a crap or even know about his obscure tarriff policies that he rarely even promoted.

So it's pretty great that after falsely attributing certain policies to libs so he can attack them, he immediately goes hard at Maddow for lack of honesty.
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03-19-2018 , 12:28 AM
Lol Bernie talked about trade and the evil TPP and lost jobs overseas all the damn time.
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03-19-2018 , 12:31 AM
Best passage from What Happened by Hillary Clinton

Quote:
Bernie: “I think America should get a pony.”

Hillary: “How will you pay for the pony? Where will the pony come from? How will you get Congress to agree to the pony?”

Bernie: “Hillary thinks America doesn’t deserve a pony.”

Bernie Supporters: “Hillary hates ponies!”

Hillary: “Actually, I love ponies.”

Bernie Supporters: “She changed her position on ponies! #WhichHillary#WitchHillary”

Headline: Hillary Refuses To Give Every American a Pony.

Debate Moderator: “Hillary, how do you feel when people say you lie about ponies?”
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03-19-2018 , 07:06 AM
Hillary has dementia.
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