I think rhetoric like this is a part of the problem. Hillary isn't close to perfect and I see how some find her legit dislikable but to act like she's not qualified at all is crazy talk.

Can't imagine killing myself when the iPhone 7 is right around the corner. It gets better.

she has an annoying face. still looking for something forcing me to vote for her. as a straight white man with no plans of additional kids, the scotus argument is doing little for me. nothing any of these idiots does effects my day-to-day life.

That's very interesting.

Trump will insta-tank the economy and make it significantly harder for you to make a living from that day forward.

Trump will cause a default on the debt-ceiling while simultaneously running up debt by paying for deportation of millions of immigrants, or try to.

Trump will appoint morons to the Supreme Court who will enforce his anti-free-press, anti-free-speech, anti-inalienable-rights positions as a matter of law.

etc.

i don't believe he is capable of doing any of that stuff on his own. trying to make me believe we have been 1 person away from complete collapse for the past 8 years?

uh....not buying it.

then vote for trump bro who gives a **** he's getting gaped in california one way or the other

suck a dick rata, nobody asked your dumb ass

if repeating his stump speech 4 times counts as obliterating her then i guess this is true. i'm still baffled he couldn't even take like 1 hour every day to pretend to get educated on foreign policy to not sound like an idiot who didn't care at all. pretty sure lots of people would have been completely all in on bernie if he would have lucidly explained a coherent non-interventionist policy of some sort instead of just rambling about while clearly having no idea what he is talking about.

In what way does that hurt an employed straight white man who isn't a member of an opposing party

Think about it, thinman has out logicked you

what do you think this phrase means?

Agree with this. The TRUMP campaign and media attention has absolutely been hilarious and entertaining and also exposed a clown filled political party and many of its supporters for what it is. I will continue to laugh at things TRUMP says and does while simultaneously hoping Hillary wins. If this happens it would be much better than someone like Rubio winning the nomination as that wouldn't have added any humor or entertainment value to my life.

And yes, Ted Cruz would be a worse President than TRUMP bc if TRUMP actually ends up in his bottom 25% of outcomes then there is a good chance he is removed from office while I'm sure Ted Cruz is actually smart enough to figure out ways to cut deals and actually get stuff through Congress.

Compare the future political class and politicians in a world where Hillary wins vs Trump wins, and I don't see how it's not close/obv Hillary.

Living in a world where the people choose or the world leaders get their choice no matter how unappealing? I'll take the former even if it results in a lol figurehead not able to do anything substantive for 4 years, at least people will wake up, people will be more engaged in politics and politicians will better serve their citizens.

Sando has already said the white supremacy is only a bridge too far if Trump explicitly campaigns with David Duke, so, you know

This is a transparent dodge.

Hillary is a Republican. I don't see how this shakes up the Republican Party, when all that's happened is the Dems counter by appealing to Republicans

So now the Republicans know they can remove all decorum and nominate their wet dream every time and the worst that happens is a Republican still gets elected

Bolded is like a top .1% result for Trump.

People aren't worried he'll do nothing; people are worried he'll tank the economy, start wars because he got his feelings hurt, and explicitly encourage racist violence in the country. For starters. But I think you knew that already and chose to represent it differently anyway.

nobody asked you **** either yet you came in here like a ****ing ****** asking people to explain how this affects you personally, and when hoaya did, you were like nahhhh i don't believe it, making this a big waste of people's time.

**** you

I'd love to hypothetically crossbook the EV of wars/warfare under Trump and wars/warfare under Hillary, Trump at least views it as a means to an end not an endless boondoggle

Sir, I believe you need to review Rules 4 and 5 of the SE Politics Thread:

I'd likely not vote Hillary if I lived in California or something just to help send the message that I'm not very fond of the candidate and the process. It's not just her. But the party in general. 8 years of someone who polls terribly as the heir apparent who would likely lose the election if not for being up against Patrick Bateman's dad. I don't want to reward that folly.

But I live in Cleveland, sonahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

peak brown people killed definitely higher under trump, but with hitlary you know you'll get a nice number with relatively low variance

The debt ceiling is the limit of debt the U.S. Treasury is allowed to issue, i.e., to how much the U.S. Treasury is legally allowed to borrow. We somewhat routinely meet the debt ceiling and Congress, virtually every time, immediately votes to raise the debt ceiling in order to facilitate this debt service. This is because if the United States does not borrow, it is unable to meet its repayment demands and this, in turn, risks destabilizing the domestic and world economies.

We have never defaulted, though the Republicans at least twice recently threatened to tank the economy by refusing to raise the debt ceiling without concessions from the Democrats.

I believe it is a dead certainty that Trump will incur obligations to new federal anti-immigrant and deportation employees, and domestic expenditures related thereto, of such magnitude that the Treasury will be unable, extraordinary measure or otherwise, to meet those obligations. We will begin defaulting, for the first time ever, on debts payable by the U.S. Treasury. That is a cascading problem.

There appears to be no other way Trump could possibly finance his government, as best I can piece it together from his idiot statements about his "policy" plans. Given his last crack at a tax plan, which would basically increase the deficit $10trilly without factoring in military expenditures that are unforeseeable right now, and without factoring in his deport-11M-people plan, there's no chance of those debts being paid without default. The debt ceiling would need to move an enormous amount to allow for the mandatory borrowing Trump will have to engage in to pay for his dumb platform.

By the way, I note that the debt issued by a Trump presidency would have to pay significantly better than current U.S. bonds, etc. None of this is unforeseeable to an investor, or to the world.

you guys are quick but he got insta-temped

Must Vote Hillary Because of The Debt is an interesting position, as is the notion of no other options between Hillary and the GOP that has appeared to be accepted for like 8 years now

You can take that position about literally any policy position and be right vis a vis Trump, this is not hard stuff Thayer.