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07-23-2016 , 04:40 PM
Yeah it might actually be higher, polls haven't yet factored in his well-received convention speech.
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07-23-2016 , 04:41 PM
Amazing job by Kaine today.
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07-23-2016 , 04:43 PM
Woody's takes became scorching once he moved to the lol suburbs. I can understand being broken by that though, has to be soul-crushingly depressing.
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07-23-2016 , 04:53 PM
Social media trends have Trump ahead of Hillary. If you go by Twitter mentions and Facebook likes.
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07-23-2016 , 04:55 PM
I've lived in the suburbs and <10 minutes from a sick beach almost my entire life other than a short stretch in Brooklyn. Even in Austin I didn't set foot in the city unless I absolutely had to. Not sure what any of that has to do with my political views.
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07-23-2016 , 05:00 PM
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Amazing job by Kaine today.
Pretty frustrating the Democratic Party couldn't have just chosen someone like him instead of someone as problematic as Hillary.
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07-23-2016 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Yeah it might actually be higher, polls haven't yet factored in his well-received convention speech.
Probably not. But assuming you're right, it's a sad indictment on today's USA and her people.
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07-23-2016 , 06:56 PM
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i understood the context, it's still not appropriate and it's offensive. and afaik woody hasn't resorted to racial slurs itt.
This is a tremendous proof of my theory that racists think racism is just a list of words you can't say no more and also a wonderful example of the "civility vs. indecency" debate.

Wooderson didn't say towelhead, he just urged an eliminationist bombing campaign to rid the world of the backwards savage Mohammedan.
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07-23-2016 , 07:00 PM
Again, all this "they said Trump couldn't win the primary, now they say he can't win the general" is a logical fallacy, a real one, because it shifts who "they" means from clause to clause.

The mainstream media dramatically underrated Trump's chances in the GOP primary, despite him consistently leading the polls, because they desperately cling to the idea that we are a post-racism society and there's no way half the GOP are functionally white supremacists. They just can't be! That's playing the race card, the GOP is a party of small government fiscal conservatives and sincerely religious evangelicals.

Liberals, on the other hand, have been saying that about the GOP for years and years. So we were right about that.

Half the GOP being "unexpectedly" open to ethno-nationalism doesn't scale up to the general election, though. Trump is going to do worse than Romney with non-whites, and Romney got destroyed by non-whites. He's not leading in the polls, he's never been leading in the polls.
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07-23-2016 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Yeah it might actually be higher, polls haven't yet factored in his well-received convention speech.
Jennifer Rubin has been WaPo's awful conservative shill for years, and she hated it: Final grade for the Republican National Convention: ‘D’

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And while in the past Trump has been more conversational, in Cleveland the dominant emotion he conveyed was rage. His face contorted, his face glistening with sweat and his voice bellowing for long portions of the speech, he seemed every bit the image of a dictator of another era. Only his bright-orange-ish makeup reminded us this was not a grainy black-and-while newsreel capturing a master of manipulation from Europe in the 1930s or a segregationist governor in the South in the 1960s but the high-def picture of a modern demagogue.
For comparison, she wrote endless articles in 2012 about how dreamy a Mitt Romney presidency would be.

I'm sure it's just her though.
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07-23-2016 , 07:13 PM
Jennifer Rubin is a horrible neocon shill who's been relentlessly against Trump from the beginning. I'm honestly surprised she didn't grade it an F.
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07-23-2016 , 07:36 PM
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Jennifer Rubin is a horrible neocon shill who's been relentlessly against Trump from the beginning. I'm honestly surprised she didn't grade it an F.
Me too. Any political convention in 2016 with Chachi and Antonio Sabato with prominent speaking roles deserves an F.
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07-23-2016 , 07:40 PM
Nobody watched Scott Baio's speech. A lot of people watched Trumps speech and a lot of people liked it.
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07-23-2016 , 07:44 PM
Trump did some major renovations after he bought Doral, stiffed a contractor, got sued, lost. Sad!

http://www.miamiherald.com/entertain...e91353232.html
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07-23-2016 , 07:49 PM
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Nobody watched Scott Baio's speech. A lot of people watched Trumps speech and a lot of people liked it.
There needs to be some #longreads done about the internet misanthrope who isn't willing to actually own up to supporting Daddy Trump but for some reason(and we see the same thing from all of them) just takes this tremendous glee in his popularity.

That'll show those dumb libs what that didn't need someone else to take the SAT for them.
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07-23-2016 , 07:53 PM
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This is a tremendous proof of my theory that racists think racism is just a list of words you can't say no more and also a wonderful example of the "civility vs. indecency" debate.

Wooderson didn't say towelhead, he just urged an eliminationist bombing campaign to rid the world of the backwards savage Mohammedan.
I don't know what a Mohammedan is but I highly doubt it's what I want to eliminate.
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07-23-2016 , 07:56 PM
Keep reading them wikipedia articles about objectionable muslims then get back to us
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07-23-2016 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Pretty frustrating the Democratic Party couldn't have just chosen someone like him instead of someone as problematic as Hillary.
If the speech today is a sign of where the campaign is going, they're going to do very well.
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07-23-2016 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
There needs to be some #longreads done about the internet misanthrope who isn't willing to actually own up to supporting Daddy Trump but for some reason(and we see the same thing from all of them) just takes this tremendous glee in his popularity.

That'll show those dumb libs what that didn't need someone else to take the SAT for them.
I can't speak for an entire group of people, and I think it's dumb to assume they all have the same motivations, but I will try to honestly answer this question for myself.

I don't support Donald Trump because I think he'd be an incredibly incompetent President on Day 1 for a variety of reasons, and I don't think he possesses the raw intelligence to be able to learn enough to become competent at any point of his would be presidency. If I were somehow forced to vote between Hillary and Trump and my vote would somehow be THE deciding vote, I would vote for Hillary. My life is relativity great and I have no reason to want to introduce a massive variable into it.

I don't really know why I get joy out of his popularity though. I just truly deeply hate everything that "politics" is. I hate the parties. I hate the politicians. I hate the labels. I hate the team aspect of it. I hate the way you discuss things. I pretty much hate you for a bunch of reason and I don't even really know you but I hate your guts. I hate the way the media covers things. I hate the pundits. I hate the people who treat it as a game and the political "scientists" who are so interested in analyzing it. They're a joke. It's a joke field. I hate it from the top down to the local levels which are much more insanely corrupt. It just nauseates me every time I think about it deeply.

And to me Hillary Clinton is the epitome of it and so I take ALL of that hatred out on her because I don't have anywhere else to channel it. Seeing people supporting her, because as part of some twisted joke there is no better option in this joke of a system, it angers me some more. I guess that is my best guess at why I get joy out of seeing you squirm over Trump's popularity. I am so spiteful towards the side that allowed her to be in this position to win that part of me wants all the bad things to happen because people deserve to be punished for letting this happen. They deserve to be punished for letting it be her when so many other people would have been such a slam dunk better choice than Trump.

I don't know how much that'll change as it goes from "lol at him ever actually being president" to "well now he might actually win" but that's pretty much how I feel right now and I'm fully aware of the flaws of that line of thinking and how insensitive it is to the people whose lives may be affected much more negatively than myself.
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07-23-2016 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Keep reading them wikipedia articles about objectionable muslims then get back to us
Nobody laughed the first time you made this joke so I don't think they're gonna laugh the 8th or 9th time either.
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07-23-2016 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
This is a tremendous proof of my theory that racists think racism is just a list of words you can't say no more and also a wonderful example of the "civility vs. indecency" debate.



Wooderson didn't say towelhead, he just urged an eliminationist bombing campaign to rid the world of the backwards savage Mohammedan.


My theory is that you are like a homophobe who is secretly gay but ashamed of it. You think everything is racist because you are secretly a big racist and hate yourself for it. It's ok. Acceptance is the first step.
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07-23-2016 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Again, all this "they said Trump couldn't win the primary, now they say he can't win the general" is a logical fallacy, a real one, because it shifts who "they" means from clause to clause.

The mainstream media dramatically underrated Trump's chances in the GOP primary, despite him consistently leading the polls, because they desperately cling to the idea that we are a post-racism society and there's no way half the GOP are functionally white supremacists. They just can't be! That's playing the race card, the GOP is a party of small government fiscal conservatives and sincerely religious evangelicals.

Liberals, on the other hand, have been saying that about the GOP for years and years. So we were right about that.

Half the GOP being "unexpectedly" open to ethno-nationalism doesn't scale up to the general election, though. Trump is going to do worse than Romney with non-whites, and Romney got destroyed by non-whites. He's not leading in the polls, he's never been leading in the polls.
Democrats elected Hillary Clinton as a nominee over countless better candidates, let's stop pretending that the jump from average republican voter to average democrat voter to average undecided voter is massive.
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07-23-2016 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Nobody laughed the first time you made this joke so I don't think they're gonna laugh the 8th or 9th time either.
I can see where you might not want people ITT reminded that you earnestly suggested that the Western powers ought to come up with a kill list of thousands of Muslims based on wikipedia articles.
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07-23-2016 , 08:48 PM
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I can't speak for an entire group of people, and I think it's dumb to assume they all have the same motivations, but I will try to honestly answer this question for myself.



I don't support Donald Trump because I think he'd be an incredibly incompetent President on Day 1 for a variety of reasons, and I don't think he possesses the raw intelligence to be able to learn enough to become competent at any point of his would be presidency. If I were somehow forced to vote between Hillary and Trump and my vote would somehow be THE deciding vote, I would vote for Hillary. My life is relativity great and I have no reason to want to introduce a massive variable into it.



I don't really know why I get joy out of his popularity though. I just truly deeply hate everything that "politics" is. I hate the parties. I hate the politicians. I hate the labels. I hate the team aspect of it. I hate the way you discuss things. I pretty much hate you for a bunch of reason and I don't even really know you but I hate your guts. I hate the way the media covers things. I hate the pundits. I hate the people who treat it as a game and the political "scientists" who are so interested in analyzing it. They're a joke. It's a joke field. I hate it from the top down to the local levels which are much more insanely corrupt. It just nauseates me every time I think about it deeply.



And to me Hillary Clinton is the epitome of it and so I take ALL of that hatred out on her because I don't have anywhere else to channel it. Seeing people supporting her, because as part of some twisted joke there is no better option in this joke of a system, it angers me some more. I guess that is my best guess at why I get joy out of seeing you squirm over Trump's popularity. I am so spiteful towards the side that allowed her to be in this position to win that part of me wants all the bad things to happen because people deserve to be punished for letting this happen. They deserve to be punished for letting it be her when so many other people would have been such a slam dunk better choice than Trump.



I don't know how much that'll change as it goes from "lol at him ever actually being president" to "well now he might actually win" but that's pretty much how I feel right now and I'm fully aware of the flaws of that line of thinking and how insensitive it is to the people whose lives may be affected much more negatively than myself.


This is exactly how I feel. Greatest post ever.
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07-23-2016 , 09:52 PM
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This is exactly how I feel. Greatest post ever.
So you "Don't support Donald Trump"?
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