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Old 11-05-2017, 05:43 PM   #1
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Diamond MLB Offseason Thread 2017-18

Your champion: The Houston Astros.

Your challenger: 29 other teams.

The goal: Win the offseason en route to winning the 2018 World Series.

Prominent Free Agents (MLBTR top 25, with estimated deals in parentheses)
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1) Yu Darvish - 6/160
2) J.D. Martinez - 6/150
3) Eric Hosmer - 6/132
4) Jake Arrieta 4/100
5) Mike Moustakas - 5/85
6) Lorenzo Cain - 4/70
7) Wade Davis - 4/60
8) Lance Lynn - 4/56
9) Greg Holland - 4/50
10) Alex Cobb - 4/48
11) Carlos Santana - 3/45
12) Zack Cozart - 3/42
13) Jay Bruce - 3/39
14) Logan Morrison - 3/36
15) Addison Reed - 3/36
16) Todd Frazier - 3/33
17) Mike Minor - 4/28
18) Brandon Morrow - 3/24
19) Jonathan Lucroy - 2/24
20) CC Sabathia - 2/24
21) Yonder Alonso - 2/22
22) Carlos Gomez - 2/22
23) Juan Nicasio - 3/21
24) Bryan Shaw - 3/21
25) Andrew Cashner - 2/20

Graduated from top 50:
* Masahiro Tanaka
* Justin Upton
* Michael Brantley

Potential free agent that everyone cares about more than any of the free agents:
* Shohei Otani

A few stars on potentially ****ty teams who could inspire trade discussion:

* Giancarlo Stanton
* Josh Donaldson
* Marcell Ozuna
* Jose Abreu
* Christian Yellich
* Andrew McCutchen
* Joey Votto

Discuss at your leisure.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:48 PM   #2
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re: MLB Offseason Thread 2017-18

I think I want Mike Moustakas --> Atlanta

I worry about how brutally awful he was for stretches as he was trying to establish himself in the league,

but the Barves have a HUGE hole at 3B, so we gotta do SOMEthing there.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:50 PM   #3
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In. Solid OP.

I kind of already hate this offseason and the Red Sox haven't even signed Hosmer yet.
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Old 11-05-2017, 05:50 PM   #4
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I think I want Mike Moustakas --> Atlanta

I worry about how brutally awful he was for stretches as he was trying to establish himself in the league,

but the Barves have a HUGE hole at 3B, so we gotta do SOMEthing there.
Didn't Freddie start playing 3B near season's end so Matt Adams could play 1B? What happened with that?
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:08 PM   #5
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That didn't last, Freddie's not really a 3B
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:25 PM   #6
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What is the status of Otani? I thought that was still another year away.

Shouldnt we be getting awards this week?
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:28 PM   #7
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nice OP

gonna be tough to lose Jake though I've heard the Cubbies are going after Yu to replace him
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:53 PM   #8
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Give me a donaldson
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:05 PM   #9
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Excellent OP

Cubs are rumored to be high on Alex Cobb too, and they just signed his pitching coach from TB. They're going to need at least a couple starters and Theo was suggesting pretty strongly that they'd be open to trading major league talent for one if necessary, which could mean guys like Happ, Almora, Russell, Baez, Schwarber (in roughly that order) could be available for the right guy.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:28 PM   #10
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Go Dbacks???
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:43 PM   #11
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I think Cobb gets more than MLBTR's 4/48...there's rumoured interest from the entire AL East. Smart FO's will like him being another year away from TJ and for the caliber of competition he generated his numbers against.

Also think Arrieta will get a fifth year now that Cueto and Tanaka are off the table.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:04 PM   #12
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I would think Arrieta would get at least 6 from someone. 4 seems ridiculously low. The whole reason the Cubs have always been expected to let him go is that they don't want to make the 6+ year commitment he'll be after. If they could get him for 3-4 years, avoid the worst of the decline, and have his salary off the books by the time Bryzzo etc become free agents, I think they'd be all over it. I'm pretty sure something like 4/100 would've already been discussed in the last couple years and been laughed off by Boras.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:12 PM   #13
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Can't wait until the Tigazz sign some awful middle relievers and a new utility guy to replace Andrew Romine. EXCITE.
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:05 AM   #14
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I would be stoked if the Mariners could get Cobb for $12M/year.
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:25 AM   #15
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I would be stoked if the Mariners could get Cobb for $12M/year.
Could definitely use a starter or two.
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Old 11-06-2017, 09:37 AM   #16
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Meh, Dipoto would just trade him three months later anyways.
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Old 11-06-2017, 11:17 AM   #17
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No way Yu gets 160 after not being able to get anyone out in the series. But I also thought no one would ever give Panda big money.
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:02 PM   #18
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If he was tipping his pitches, that's fixable. A couple bad outings shouldn't really affect his value much in any case. He's still the best starter available in a relatively thin market, so he'll have lots of teams bidding against each other driving up the price.
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:41 PM   #19
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Yu is obviously going to get big money
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Old 11-06-2017, 12:57 PM   #20
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Heyman reporting the Reds are unlikely to offer Cozart a QO. Feels like a mistake.
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:06 PM   #21
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Chances that anybody would be willing to take part of the Miguel Cabrera contract?
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:43 PM   #22
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Would have said yes until I looked his contract up... still 6 years and like 196mm left in guaranteed, and he was below replacement this season.
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:47 PM   #23
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Heyman reporting the Reds are unlikely to offer Cozart a QO. Feels like a mistake.
Seems like the mistake was not getting something for him at the deadline last year when he was having a career year, if they were just going to let him walk and get literally nothing in return.
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Old 11-06-2017, 07:27 PM   #24
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9 Players Receive Qualifying Offers

Jake Arrieta, SP, Cubs
Lorenzo Cain, OF, Royals
Alex Cobb, SP, Rays
Wade Davis, RP, Cubs
Greg Holland, RP, Rockies
Eric Hosmer, 1B, Royals
Lance Lynn, SP, Cardinals
Mike Moustakas, 3B, Royals
Carlos Santana, 1B, Indians
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Old 11-06-2017, 07:49 PM   #25
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Seems like the mistake was not getting something for him at the deadline last year when he was having a career year, if they were just going to let him walk and get literally nothing in return.
Less than nothing. Don't teams lose a pick if they don't extend QO to someone like Cozart. Though 17mil is a lot to invest in that dumpster fire.
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