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04-08-2021 , 06:11 AM
All this Kam and Leroy lovey dovey team money etc seems silly.to me. They're not married with kids or anything. They're probably a flip at best to be together at the end of the year.

See Jordan and Tori.

Was very disappointed to see the Hall Brawl. There's almost no room for variance. Would've only been fun if it was CT vs Fessy. Smallest guy left vs Biggest guy not even fun to watch.

See Rogan vs Jay elimination when the same thing happened.

Why is Leroy quitting the challenge now? He finally became a relevant player.
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04-08-2021 , 06:33 AM
Time to focus on being a barber
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04-08-2021 , 09:02 AM
They have really really played up Leroy's retirement for a guy who has been decent but hardly noteworthy over the years. He gets an edit at least once an episode.
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04-08-2021 , 11:28 AM
all star season already more enjoyable than double agents.
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04-08-2021 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
All this Kam and Leroy lovey dovey team money etc seems silly.to me. They're not married with kids or anything. They're probably a flip at best to be together at the end of the year.

See Jordan and Tori.

Was very disappointed to see the Hall Brawl. There's almost no room for variance. Would've only been fun if it was CT vs Fessy. Smallest guy left vs Biggest guy not even fun to watch.

See Rogan vs Jay elimination when the same thing happened.

Why is Leroy quitting the challenge now? He finally became a relevant player.
lol pretty big assumption there, Tori was notorious for having cheated multiple times in the past
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04-08-2021 , 01:29 PM
I don't think Kam really thought her decision through and neither did anyone else. If there was a physical elimination, Fessy was winning and Fessy also got to pick his partner (Casey) which is hugely -EV for everyone else. Similarly, Nanny was likely going to end up with Leroy, Kam's BF and that essentially ruins his equity.

She situation that would have ****ed the most people and kept Fessy handcuffed to Amber B was to send Kyle in and if it was physical send Cory in. If it wasn't, send Leroy in. The only big advantage Kyle could have in an elimination against his opponents would be some sort of puzzle.

I think equity now is

Fessy/Casey--both made the final last year (Casey came in 2nd--not sure who is dogging her for that as a rookie)-40--as long as they aren't running through the snow it won't be a big issue. The only thing I'd worried about is Fessy's attitude.
Kam/Cory-not a real weakness now maybe eating-35
CT/Amber B-not sure about Amber B but CT does make sure for some of her biggest weakness (Puzzles/math)-20
Leroy/Nany-I just don't see Nany winning it if there is anything overly physical in the final-5
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04-08-2021 , 02:00 PM
The bb people wouldnt steal money. Nany and leroy wont.
Maybe killa kam would steal from cory but it seems unlikely.
Chris stealing 500k from tall Amber would be great
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04-08-2021 , 02:12 PM
oh yeah, there better be some type of steal to make up for this crappy season

Bananas telling Sarah "You wanted the win, you got the win" after he took 137k from her was hilarious

re Leroy/Kam they've been together like 4-5 years I think, also both seem like normal/cool people (besides Kam's constant boasting when she's never won anything), Jordan seems pretty insane/headcase
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04-08-2021 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
They have really really played up Leroy's retirement for a guy who has been decent but hardly noteworthy over the years. He gets an edit at least once an episode.
If you do ten seasons of anything, you deserve a send-off!
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04-08-2021 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
I don't think Kam really thought her decision through and neither did anyone else. If there was a physical elimination, Fessy was winning and Fessy also got to pick his partner (Casey) which is hugely -EV for everyone else. Similarly, Nanny was likely going to end up with Leroy, Kam's BF and that essentially ruins his equity.

She situation that would have ****ed the most people and kept Fessy handcuffed to Amber B was to send Kyle in and if it was physical send Cory in. If it wasn't, send Leroy in. The only big advantage Kyle could have in an elimination against his opponents would be some sort of puzzle.

I think equity now is

Fessy/Casey--both made the final last year (Casey came in 2nd--not sure who is dogging her for that as a rookie)-40--as long as they aren't running through the snow it won't be a big issue. The only thing I'd worried about is Fessy's attitude.
Kam/Cory-not a real weakness now maybe eating-35
CT/Amber B-not sure about Amber B but CT does make sure for some of her biggest weakness (Puzzles/math)-20
Leroy/Nany-I just don't see Nany winning it if there is anything overly physical in the final-5
as per my %s in my post, gimme CT in a final with a girl who can run at 4-1 all day every day against this slew of competitors
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04-08-2021 , 11:11 PM
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re Leroy/Kam they've been together like 4-5 years I think, also both seem like normal/cool people (besides Kam's constant boasting when she's never won anything), Jordan seems pretty insane/headcase
Aq quick google search will show you their one year anniversary was less than 6 months ago.
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04-09-2021 , 12:44 AM
I think they were off and on for awhile, I remember them being together in dirty 30 or one of those old shows.

2nd ep of all stars wasn't bad, a lot of these people just really aren't prepared to be on TV since they haven't been in awhile. Katie/Trishelle fight was pretty good.
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04-09-2021 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
I think they were off and on for awhile, I remember them being together in dirty 30 or one of those old shows.

2nd ep of all stars wasn't bad, a lot of these people just really aren't prepared to be on TV since they haven't been in awhile. Katie/Trishelle fight was pretty good.
She had a fling with Theo in between . And Leroy was quite jealous .

Some of the people on All Stars are in such bad shape. Like do they not know what a final is ? Lol
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04-09-2021 , 05:30 AM
Might be an unpopular take here but hall brawl is super boring as an elimination as it's almost a free win for whoever is bigger. The fact that Fessy got 2 Hall Brawl eliminations this season is ridiculous.
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04-09-2021 , 09:56 AM
1 of the women on all stars looks to be unhealthy skinny. most are fat and old but she is old and sickly skinny. Legit looks like she could fall over at any moment.

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04-09-2021 , 11:59 AM
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Might be an unpopular take here but hall brawl is super boring as an elimination as it's almost a free win for whoever is bigger. The fact that Fessy got 2 Hall Brawl eliminations this season is ridiculous.
I dont need it four times in a season that’s for sure.
But i imagine covid tied their hands
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04-09-2021 , 01:09 PM
I want them to go back to choosing a random elimination the day before. Adds some strategy to voting when you know what it is, and they are definitely rigging who advances when they can just choose hall brawl for Fessy.
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04-09-2021 , 02:13 PM
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Might be an unpopular take here but hall brawl is super boring as an elimination as it's almost a free win for whoever is bigger. The fact that Fessy got 2 Hall Brawl eliminations this season is ridiculous.

It's also hilariously dangerous. But yeah, the narrowness of the hall leaves almost no room for anything that a guy like Kyle can do against Fessy.

We've never seen CT in a hall brawl I think. CT vs Fessy would've been great. But anything with more than 30 lbs size difference is just silly.
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04-09-2021 , 02:24 PM
Rogan/Nelson was a pretty good haul brawl but yeah seeing Fessy just run someone over or Rogan kill Jay is pretty lame. Need people of comparable size/strength for that stuff.

re: arissa...yeah weird, she doesnt look healthy at all, kinda makes me feel uncomfortable watching and I check phone when she is on
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04-09-2021 , 03:09 PM
All stars is depressing af
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04-09-2021 , 04:28 PM
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Rogan/Nelson was a pretty good haul brawl but yeah seeing Fessy just run someone over or Rogan kill Jay is pretty lame. Need people of comparable size/strength for that stuff.

re: arissa...yeah weird, she doesnt look healthy at all, kinda makes me feel uncomfortable watching and I check phone when she is on
She looks like an ex drug addict now . Also was Laterrian on one season and got eliminated early? How is he an all star . Never heard of him until the first episode
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04-13-2021 , 11:13 PM
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One team should have gone rogue and sent their female to be buried. So much value in being the unique team
I was shocked Kyle didn’t do this. Not because he’s smart but because he has to know he was a dog in the daily and has to do something to increase variance.

I also thought all/most of the girls would go and the guys would stay since it seems far more likely that whoever stays decides the outcome more, but maybe I only think that because of the buried alive challenge from years ago is seared in my brain.
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04-14-2021 , 12:00 PM
Looks like paramount plus is putting the All stars episodes out on their YouTube channel
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04-14-2021 , 02:44 PM
Still probably wont watch lol
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04-14-2021 , 04:31 PM
tonight better be the finale, been watching this thing forever

you got 90 minutes, no need to drag this out longer than that

go CT, show the young bucks what it is

edit: ok tonight isn't the finale and it is only a 1hr ep...shoot me

The Buccaneers were still fighting for the wildcard when this show started, James Harden was still at the strip club in Houston
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