its still a fair system even if thats not what we thought it would be beforehand. However, we did decide that if a team was split up then the points get halved for each winner rather than staying the same and getting applied to more people. So these challenge totals should all be halved and the survival totals are for the team and not the individual so I believe those are also getting double counted.

Yeah it is fair, but it definitely makes the sweat way worse.

The challenges are basically meaningless, eliminations are everything.

The whole format is really dumb. If you're on a guy/girl team, one member of the team had 100% incentive to throw the comp every single time.

Also, if you're the stronger of a same sex partnership you have incentive to throw every other time.

It's a terrible incentive system.

No one seems to realize this, though, so CHALLENGE continues to be great, especially what with all the good drama.

Pretty sure Nany lost by a lot more than they say she did. Fake drama.

Enjoying ABE.

i dont think theyd just lie about the total number in the elimination...

kelly-anne got ahead because nany couldnt figure out how to hit the bell on the first one then knew all she had to do was not get passed up twice. pretty easy since she could see nany running next to her

I think last night was the most MTV I've watched at one time since I was like 9 and cared about the VMAs for some reason. 2 great episodes then a cousin ****ing True Life while getting drunker and drunker was just great entertainment.

I bet someone wrote Brianna's Abe/Pitbull comparison for her, that was way too good for Daddy's little bake shop girl.

I wouldn't think so, but every time they cut to it, KellyAnne was moving between somewhat faster & much faster than Nany.

Also, MTV lost a lot of trust with me when they edited a long sequence of 3 events & storylines totally in a different order on Are You The One.

Regardless, it was a poor Dome design for potential drama.

Were the cousins even attractive?

This x1000.

At the end of the team challenge:

• the winning team gets to vote in 1 player from the losing team into the pit
• the losing team gets to vote in 1 player from the losing team into the pit
• the pit concluces with both teams losing 1 player!

There is literally no positive outcome of winning the challenge, unless you're a beta bitch that prefers your bloodline over yourself if required to go into the pit.

jmurder is now the first person i know who has watched are you the one

and yeah, as said before the format is awful. there is no reason to win

I watched the episodes online so I didn't get to see the rationalization as to why Abe calls Bananas "John", oh well

I feel like the producers gotta know this format is flawed and are gonna shake it up soon, especially if CT and Zach are coming.

My wife likes it. If I can relax & watch a show that is a feeder system to CHALLENGE with my wife, rather than some awful pointless show, that's a win.

It's not bad. Some funny drama. Some dumbazz commentary. Some competitions. Basically a homeless man's challenge. Somewhat recommend.

Put it on par with Real World.

Wife also watches CHALLENGE with me, so she's cool.

There was a pretty hod blonde one who married her cousin who is probably juggalo.

I only watched like 15 minutes but she seemed relatively normal. Outside of the ****ing and marrying her cousin thing.

My DVRing of the challenge ran over so I was treated to about 5 minutes of the cousin/baby-mama show. No they are not attractive. They looked about how you would expect with the information you have + one was preggo.

Someone said a few pages ago that Raphy is probably done but Dario could comeback. I could see both coming back easily. The Challenge pretty much takes anyone at this point, Exes, Skeletons, AYTO, AYTO relatives. If you've been on the challenge just 1 time, you've got a chance to comeback. There is no Road Rules and it seems like the people that are booked on the real world don't fit the challenge mold to a T like they used to.

Does anyone know how much $ they get to go on the show? I would think people like Zach, Johnny Riley or Jordan would want to just go on it every time.

Never go on twitter but decided to check out if ABE had anything to say. He just had one tweet to laurel:

"Dear @laurelstucky -you are a ****.It is rare when deserved. You do.Always have been since the day I met the nastiest drunk I ever-Abram"

Naturally I had to check out Laurels twitter after that, and she was live blogging during the episodes yesterday lol. After that I had to check out Cara Marias twitter and she had fired SHATS at Nany:

"That awkward moment when you realize you made out w less people in 8 entire seasons of #thechallenge than some people have in one season..." and

"That awkward moment when you realize you have been in more eliminations in ONE season than others have in their career. #thechallenge @mtv"

I then made the fish play of going to Nanys twitter which made me close twitter. These people are really equally insane outside of the show, it's not an act lol.

2 things I learned about The Challenge/NFL related facts

1. Ryan Fitzpatrick looks like Bananas. Just imagine it is Bananas at QB for the Jets when watching game/highlights.

2. Theresa's boyfriend (baby daddy) caught a TD this week from Stafford. TJ Jones. They've been together awhile I guess.

So I ended up recording the episode and I found the Abe clip. How do I get it on the Internet? Film it with my phone and upload it?

I saw it. It was on the Barstool sports Challenge podcast page. It was a vine of it fwiw.

FWIW mtv.ca puts out the episode pretty quickly (like 3 AM eastern thurs) and has high quality+all the clips obv. Just use hola unblocker to pretend you're from canada.

Watched both of these yesterday (last year, I suppose). Want to share my thoughts before they become even more incoherent.

- other than his mega******ed tattoos, I love everything about Abe. He is spot-on about JOHN, who is a hypocritical snake who turns into a little bitch when he doesn't get his way. It's great that Abe recognizes this and more importantly seems to make it his Life's Mission to destroy JOHN. That said, JOHN does say some pretty damned hilarious things, primarily at the expense of fellow castmates.

- the scene where JOHN did the heel turn was pretty incredible. First a speech, which led to Teej giving him an exasperated look and a clearly annoyed "what is your vote?", followed by JOHN looking right at Nany and saying firmly "my vote is for Nany". Like for some reason he kind of enjoyed plunging the knife.

- Nany is great TV because she's a loon, but her sense of entitlement makes me happy for her demise. It's really too bad Dario and Raphy ****ed up because they were great for the house drama. Inventing a dance called the "Nany" which involved her moving ungracefully while smoking a cigarette was a solid troll.

- at one point they showed someone attractive that I didn't recognize so I backed up. Oh, it was Nany's annoying cousin. She actually looked pretty decent without all that **** on her face. Seems like we aren't the best judges of what passes for attractive, and much as an 80 lb anorexic would look in a mirror and think she's fat, somehow Nany's cousin thinks that caking on a ton of makeup - but curiously only on the top half of her face, putting on weirdly angled fake eyebrows and color contacts is somehow an improvement. She looks like the type of porn that people would watch on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

- Aneesa. Where to begin. Any time spent on her is too much time but wtf at these last three episodes. She's ugly, she's not smart, she's not fit, she's not fun. Her skillset appears to consist primarily of hanging out at bars talking **** about people who suck far less than her. KellyAnne's hilarious drunk ranting about eating a ton of donuts in order to get as fat as Aneesa and how she wasn't being petty because Aneesa is HUGE was replayed a few times before I moved on. If Aneesa had gotten voted in instead of Nany and was faced with the prospect of running back and forth fifty times KellyAnne could have moon walked to victory.

That's hopefully everything.

Second time in a season that aneesa uses the 'irl consequences' line.

one of the most annoying parts of the show (which nany is a main offender) is complaining that someone "showed their true colors" because they voted for you. everyone has to vote for someone yo.

then its always followed by a "i'll be coming after everyone who said my name" like you are going to vote for 6 different people next round

it's the whole friggin game and they ALWAYS act like morons when they're voted for...

Promising consequences in REAL LIFE is always the best

do we know why CT comes back? is it just for a day?