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08-05-2017 , 05:57 PM
Don't know much about her, but isn't Khan caught with other women like every other month? They should just do a reality TV show with that entire family, Amir would make more money without having to be continually knocked out.
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08-05-2017 , 05:59 PM
Manny is apparently exercising his rematch against Horn. Probably in November.

A lot of people predicting Horn wins decisively this time. I don't see it. Manny looked kinda old, but mostly just unfocused/underprepared. Besides, most agree he won the first time around. So a lot going his way and by the same token I don't see how Horn improves all that much, he fought well but he was close to be knocked out and he shouldn't have won the decision.

Then again, I said similar stuff about Kovalev (though could not predict he'd lose a testicle like he did on the "KO.").
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08-05-2017 , 06:04 PM
Manny/Horn 2= Manny/Bradley 2

He'll focus and even as an old man, **** up the overmatched teacher.
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08-05-2017 , 06:24 PM
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Manny/Horn 2= Manny/Bradley 2

He'll focus and even as an old man, **** up the overmatched teacher.
Pretty bang on. Manny will win and make it clear to all that the first fight was a fix so he could use it to bank on a rematch.
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08-05-2017 , 07:32 PM
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Pretty bang on. Manny will win and make it clear to all that the first fight was a fix so he could use it to bank on a rematch.
No chance it was fixed so that Manny could make bank on a rematch, it doesn't make financial sense to face Horn twice. It didn't even make sense to face him once really, but Arum's refusal to match him vs other stables prevented 5-10 better choices from being considered.
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08-05-2017 , 10:04 PM
Dammit LT, wrap this up so we can get to Loma
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08-06-2017 , 12:34 AM
Loma is from another planet
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08-06-2017 , 12:36 AM
dude is entertaining as hell, though i'm not a big fan of blatant showboating.
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08-06-2017 , 12:43 AM
Conor McGregor effect imo. He wants those big paydays.

Seems like some of these guys should have outside people to help their social media game.
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08-06-2017 , 12:50 AM
#1 p4p, **** off Ward
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08-06-2017 , 12:53 AM
Loma for sure. Not that Marriaga is a great opponent, but you can see Loma has a decent chance at dominating top opponents. Ward and Kovalev were basically even in both matches, you saw their weaknesses.

I also have Roman ranked above the LHW guys, Roman's only weakness is the same one I suspect we'll see with Loma: They'll look vulnerable vs larger, skilled fighters. At their prime weight class, nobody should touch them.

I'd really like to see Loma fight Garcia. I think Top Rank should gamble on that. Loma may weigh 8-10lbs less, but Loma's footwork and boxing skills are too good, I think he wins that one 75% of the time or more. Crawford is too big, unless Loma just dominates Garcia on a shutout, Crawford and Loma are too far apart.

Would love to see Loma move down a bit and fight Rigondeaux. I think Rigondeaux's boxing skills are great, but Loma himself is too big and strong for Rigo and I'd give him the edge there. That one doesn't make as much business sense, but it makes legacy sense.
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08-06-2017 , 12:57 AM
Loma v. Mikey @ 135 for a belt, then up to 140 for Indongo after he loses to Bud. After that it's 147 for the best era in WW boxing ever
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08-06-2017 , 05:15 AM
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Loma v. Mikey @ 135 for a belt, then up to 140 for Indongo after he loses to Bud. After that it's 147 for the best era in WW boxing ever
Am I reading this wrong or are you suggesting Loma can or will compete at 147?
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08-06-2017 , 08:15 AM
Last 3 opponents just retire at the end of a round. Loma is just a sicko
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08-06-2017 , 08:30 AM
Size of Garcia's head.

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08-06-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Am I reading this wrong or are you suggesting Loma can or will compete at 147?
I am. He's entirely too small, but it's the same thing guys like Manny and RJJ have had to do throughout history. If he can't get a fight with Rigo at a CW, what fights are left for him at 130?

Dude has to move up and chase the top 5 OAT label. He's 29, no time to fiddle-**** around. Get after it
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08-06-2017 , 02:02 PM
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I am. He's entirely too small, but it's the same thing guys like Manny and RJJ have had to do throughout history. If he can't get a fight with Rigo at a CW, what fights are left for him at 130?

Dude has to move up and chase the top 5 OAT label. He's 29, no time to fiddle-**** around. Get after it
I'm as impressed by Loma's ridiculous skill set as anyone would be but I think 147 is beyond him. I think Bud annihilates him at 140 and even Mikey could prove too strong. For all his talent, Lomachenko lacks power* and if he was to get in a ring with Spence or Thurman I would be worried for his health.

*Look at how the freak power of Manny translated (or didn't) to 147.
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08-06-2017 , 02:45 PM
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I'm as impressed by Loma's ridiculous skill set as anyone would be but I think 147 is beyond him. I think Bud annihilates him at 140 and even Mikey could prove too strong. For all his talent, Lomachenko lacks power* and if he was to get in a ring with Spence or Thurman I would be worried for his health.

*Look at how the freak power of Manny translated (or didn't) to 147.
I don't see him having much of a chance at >135, he's just too small (2 in. less reach than Manny). That said, there's not a ton left for him to do. He can try to meet Rigo halfway or keep fighting no names at 130, but if he wants anything beyond this thread's attention, he'll need to move up.

Honestly I'd be interested to see just how high his footwork, speed, and accuracy can take him. I think, even with his physical shortcommings, that he's a match for many bigger fights simply because he's the most innovative offensive fighter we've had, or will have until Conor unleashes those awkward angles on us...

It's a shame that 147 is shaping up to be an incredible division for the next few years. If it was 140 instead I think he might be able to grow into it.
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08-06-2017 , 04:39 PM
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he's the most innovative offensive fighter we've had, or will have until Conor unleashes those awkward angles on us...
Great work in the Floyd/Conor thread by the way, reading through that helps explain how we will benefit from the greatest free money spot in sports betting history.
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08-06-2017 , 08:44 PM
Watched the Loma fight.

Only he and GGG regularly dominate opponents so thoroughly that they give up on the stool.

Truly incredible.

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08-07-2017 , 07:45 AM
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08-07-2017 , 07:49 AM
Well, there's a fight that nobody gives a **** about.
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08-07-2017 , 03:51 PM
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08-07-2017 , 08:03 PM
How does Burns keep getting on main cards? He ****ing sucks.

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