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09-11-2016 , 12:04 PM
It seems like everyone won in the GGG/Brook fight (save for Brook's face).

GGG showed some "vulnerability" and people are wondering aloud if he's lost a half step. That can't do anything but encourage more fighters to think they have a chance.
Of course, it's laughable that anyone questions a fighter after a 5th round TKO in which he's shattered his opponents face and walked through all of his offense, but people need a narrative.

Brook shows great skills at MW, if not power, and shows tremendous heart. The fight is supposed to have done solid numbers on Sky and while we have to wait for HBO's numbers, GGG fights have done well recently. Brook comes out looking like he's a viable option for a lot of 154 guys as he's willing to move up.
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09-11-2016 , 01:54 PM
Brook was never going to get too wrecked in this fight.

Pretty sure they agreed to go for it for a few rounds and once he had gassed a little and started to take punishment they were going to pull him out.

Simple money grab by Brook but who can blame him ... losing to GGG has no real bearing on his career and he can say he was doing fine but for the eye injury.

Reality was he was starting to get battered in there by the 5th and he was never winning that fight.

Brook can fight on at 154 and a fight against Canelo is a interesting thought.
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09-11-2016 , 01:56 PM
I would also not read too much into GGG's performance .. he looked almost bored in this fight and knew Brook was never really going to trouble him.

He took the $$$$ on offer and was out of there sharpish.
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09-11-2016 , 01:59 PM
I totally disagree with that. He told his corner he couldn't see out of his right eye. Once you do that they will always be ready to pull the trigger. Without the eye injury I think he continues on further into the fight.
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09-11-2016 , 03:04 PM
BJS calling out GGG from a caravan. Way to break the stereotype there Bill.

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09-11-2016 , 03:15 PM
He is not trying to break a stereotype......
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09-11-2016 , 03:17 PM
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09-11-2016 , 03:55 PM
Nono, that's a private jet consty!

I agree Brook was on a shorter leash than say Murray, Lemiuex or Stevens were, but I don't think it was a very short leash. Brook's eye was busted during round 2, the corner knew about it and as it got worse and Brook started to take one sided punishment they shut it down.

They would've very likely let him have another round of that type of punishment if his eye was OK. Not several like the others I mentioned probably, but that's very understandable. Murray in particular took a real beating. At a certain point in a fight vs GGG, another round can take another year off a fighter's career.
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09-11-2016 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Consty
BJS calling out GGG from a caravan. Way to break the stereotype there Bill.

White socks with slippers as well!
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09-12-2016 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
I totally disagree with that. He told his corner he couldn't see out of his right eye. Once you do that they will always be ready to pull the trigger. Without the eye injury I think he continues on further into the fight.
He was getting pulled out of that fight pretty soon regardless of that eye injury.

Watch the fight again ... Brook had little left by the 5th and GGG started letting the shots go.

Ive not watched the fight again but according to many Brook had to be helped back to his corner at the end of rounds 2 and 3 ...

Shame about the injury but i do not think it had much bearing on the final outcome of this fight.
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09-12-2016 , 06:16 AM
No way they pull him out without the eye injury.

He was out skilling GGG but without any power to hurt.

GGG just wanted to walk through him and street fight batter him after round 2.

Result would have been the same though.
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09-12-2016 , 06:19 AM
Does BJS have a chance? Can he even hurt GGG?

I think Brook is more skilled than BJS.

Would love to see GGG move up to 168 and clean up
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09-12-2016 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
He was getting pulled out of that fight pretty soon regardless of that eye injury.

Watch the fight again ... Brook had little left by the 5th and GGG started letting the shots go.

Ive not watched the fight again but according to many Brook had to be helped back to his corner at the end of rounds 2 and 3 ...

Shame about the injury but i do not think it had much bearing on the final outcome of this fight.
I think you are seriously underestimating the seriousness of the injury. I'm not saying he'd have won or even last the 12 rounds but there's no way they throw the towel in that early without the injury. Fact is GGG caused the injury so he did the damage to get brook out of there.
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09-12-2016 , 09:13 AM
Over 50,000 tickets already sold for Canelo v Liam Smith this weekend.
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09-12-2016 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
I think you are seriously underestimating the seriousness of the injury. I'm not saying he'd have won or even last the 12 rounds but there's no way they throw the towel in that early without the injury. Fact is GGG caused the injury so he did the damage to get brook out of there.
Given the eye injury, getting him out was a no-brainer. Could have been the end of his career if the fight wasn't stopped.

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09-12-2016 , 09:27 AM
Scorecard from Saturday, not that it means a lot but interesting nevertheless.

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09-12-2016 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
I think you are seriously underestimating the seriousness of the injury. I'm not saying he'd have won or even last the 12 rounds but there's no way they throw the towel in that early without the injury. Fact is GGG caused the injury so he did the damage to get brook out of there.
The eye injury does not affect your stamina, Brook was blowing hard in the 5th and started taking too many shots.

Going up in weight that quickly was always going to affect his stamina ... in fact Brook has never really had great stamina even at 147.

The plan was to give it a real go for 5 or 6 rounds and once he started to slow and take punishment he would be pulled out.... nothing wrong with that imo against someone like GGG.

The eye injury just meant he was pulled out a bit earlier before he took some proper tap.

Everyone knows Brook had zero chance of taking over that fight in the latter rounds even without any eye injury ...
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09-12-2016 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Consty
Scorecard from Saturday, not that it means a lot but interesting nevertheless.

From this we can glean that the fight was in England.
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09-12-2016 , 01:35 PM
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Over 50,000 tickets already sold for Canelo v Liam Smith this weekend.
Im not sure I've ever seen Liam Smith fight (I don't watch much Boxnation, that's where he fights right?).

How good is he?
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09-12-2016 , 01:37 PM
Golovkin vs Kovalev PLS
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09-12-2016 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
Im not sure I've ever seen Liam Smith fight (I don't watch much Boxnation, that's where he fights right?).

How good is he?
I've not seen too much of him either tbh. The couple of fights I have seen he looked a good all rounder but the opposition was poor.

I'd say he's underrated at this point due to lack of exposure but he's more of a Stephen Smith than a Callum. Canelo is 1.11 to win which tells the story.
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09-12-2016 , 05:39 PM
Golovkin vs. Ward, chime in on that!
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09-12-2016 , 07:32 PM
This is really cool to see

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09-12-2016 , 07:36 PM
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09-13-2016 , 04:41 AM
Just watched Brook v. GGG.

Amazing work from Brook, glad they threw the towel in there though. I would say there was a real chance he was ahead on points, but with the busted eye, there was no way he could fight on.

GGG is really good at getting hit though... Hopefully Canelo's crew were watching and coming up with a fight plan that looks like this:

[ ] Throw uppercuts
[ ] ???
[ ] Profit
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