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Old 05-04-2010, 10:02 AM   #1851
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

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he fought De La Hoya like a pussy though
Possibly the most let down by any fight I've watched. It was frustrating. I get it I get it, PBJ's defense is ridiculous but it didn't make for an entertaining fight at all.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:19 AM   #1852
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

http://www.790thezone.com/ListenLive/index.aspx

listening to freddie roach on maywhem in the AM..

just said about 40 million dollars to each guy that comes to the table.. negotiations are in the works..

freddie roach has announced this fight IS going to happen, either october or november. definitely before the years out..

philippino congress elections are in 7 days along with the national election, although pacman is likely to be elected freddie roach says he will still train and fight the only difference is he will be congressman pacman now.

EDIT: freddie roach points out that mayweather doesn't have the footing/legs he used to, says he looks flat footed.

EDIT 2: 17-18 day blood testing will be the compromise. Arum is in the Philippines for negotiations right now.

LETS GET IT ON

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Old 05-04-2010, 11:09 AM   #1853
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Whos up for a Pacquiao v Cotto fight for the jr middleweight title at a catchweight of 150? (granted cotto wins it from foreman)

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=27482

The other option is a fight vs Margarito who got exposed cheating via loading his handwraps with plastic material. Hen then got raped completely by the "old Mosley" and has thereafter been inactive for 1.5 years.

Great for boxing!

Or or... he could fight Williams or Berto. Or Bradley for that matter.
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:17 AM   #1854
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i hate bob arum
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:29 AM   #1855
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

This was all probably the master plan the whole time.
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Old 05-04-2010, 12:39 PM   #1856
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

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Possibly the most let down by any fight I've watched. It was frustrating. I get it I get it, PBJ's defense is ridiculous but it didn't make for an entertaining fight at all.
i was not duped by de lahoya at all. i knew that he was just trying to get a big payday and could not beat mayweather (outside of the lucky punch)

considering that oscar draws half of mexico to his fights and makes so much money, he could fight joe louis in his prime and people would pack the stadium thinking he had a chance.



just read the manny has softened his stance on the testing.. enough talking about drug tests etc... lets get this fight on so that mayweather can silence his critics. its funny that if/when mayweather beats manny they are going to say.. 'he was suppose to win because manny is the smaller man etc'
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Old 05-04-2010, 12:44 PM   #1857
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http://www.790thezone.com/ListenLive/index.aspx


EDIT: freddie roach points out that mayweather doesn't have the footing/legs he used to, says he looks flat footed.

LETS GET IT ON
mayweather's balance is excellent. he is always (as can be) in position to strike. he can be flat footed and does not have to move his feet. he slips, blocks, parrys the punch and boom, he clocks you because he has not moved out of punching range.

roach prays that mayweather starts moving his feet more.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:05 PM   #1858
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

He has not softened his stance on the testing. It was a false rumor (on Pacs official website and all, circus as usual) denied by both Koncz and Bob Arum.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:11 PM   #1859
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

By the sound of it, this fight is happening, I don't think boxing as a sport will allow it not to. They will come to an agreement, mayweather likes money, pacman likes punching people and singing. This HAS to happen.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:13 PM   #1860
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It is going to be really brutal to have to listen to Mayweather badmouth someone as humble and easy-going as Pacquiao for several months
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:16 PM   #1861
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i am just going to forget about this fight until they sign the contract.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:17 PM   #1862
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It is going to be really brutal to have to listen to Mayweather badmouth someone as humble and easy-going as Pacquiao for several months
You are talking about possibly the two biggest egos in the sport.
Neither is anything close to humble and easygoing.

Mayweathers 3 last opponents fit the description alot better. Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez and Shane Mosley are in fact humble and easy going.

Granted Pacquiao is not as great at the trashtalk, but that is also because of the language barrier.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:23 PM   #1863
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

This vid is GOLD!

Filipino family during the 2nd round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjiOC...layer_embedded
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:25 PM   #1864
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You are talking about possibly the two biggest egos in the sport.
Neither is anything close to humble and easygoing.

Mayweathers 3 last opponents fit the description alot better. Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez and Shane Mosley are in fact humble and easy going.

Granted Pacquiao is not as great at the trashtalk, but that is also because of the language barrier.
yeah, guess i meant soft-spoken like Manny is whether from the language barrier or not

either may Mayweather is a giant douche and listening to him trash-talk is brutal
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:00 PM   #1865
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This vid is GOLD!

Filipino family during the 2nd round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjiOC...layer_embedded
haha

Filipinos should have been rooting for Mayweather. It's better for Pacquaio if Mayweather won. I understand why they wanted to see Mayweather get KO'd though.
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:18 PM   #1866
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This vid is GOLD!

Filipino family during the 2nd round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjiOC...layer_embedded
lol. that could easily have been my house. me jumping the highest and shouting the loudest cheering for Mosley. and doing it with my bet on Mayweather. (cuz Im not that stupid)
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:09 PM   #1867
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Also, just read the OP again and it's just so damn awesome. Gotta be a top ten post in SE history.
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i expect mayweather to be like "i beat his azz once for $50+ million, lets do it again for $50+million."
So why didn't he fight De La Hoya again? The rematch was set for September '08.

I've seen the song and dance before. There will be no rematch after a Mayweather win. There'll be no stepping up to fight Paul Williams or Sergio Martinez. There will only be retirement.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:19 PM   #1868
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So why didn't he fight De La Hoya again? The rematch was set for September '08.

I've seen the song and dance before. There will be no rematch after a Mayweather win. There'll be no stepping up to fight Paul Williams or Sergio Martinez. There will only be retirement.
Why would he have rematched De la Hoya? It was a crystal clear win.

Stepping up to fight Paul Williams? Do you know of this fella named Al Haymon?

And Sergio Martinez is the lineal Middleweight champ. Floyd taking him on would be extremely impressive and not something to demand or expect.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:24 PM   #1869
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

He's a ducker obviously. There is nothing about his behavior that suggests anything he says is truthful. He wants a legacy and dodging opponents is a good way to have an argument that you're the greatest while not being the greatest.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:43 PM   #1870
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He's a ducker obviously. There is nothing about his behavior that suggests anything he says is truthful. He wants a legacy and dodging opponents is a good way to have an argument that you're the greatest while not being the greatest.
And who did he duck?

Margarito? The Top rank promoted fighter?

I would say Pacquiao has legitimately ducked atleast as many opponents as Floyd.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:58 PM   #1871
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wtf does that have to do with anything?
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:05 PM   #1872
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wtf does that have to do with anything?
You are saying he is a ducker and i disagree. I would like to know who you think he has "ducked".

The myth that Floyd is and has ducked people is greatly exaggerated.
You could make a case for Margarito* but seeing as he is and was a top rank promoted fighter that is quite understandable.
He could have fought him but opted for the unbeaten Ricky Hatton for a larger payday.

If a person is really grasping for straws, he could say he ducked Cotto, tho in fact that "duck" was nothing else than a petty joke from Floyds side during a WWE show.

* Not to mention, he had just lost to Paul Williams at the time.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:07 PM   #1873
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i think its already been posted that Floyd has hand picked his previous opponents very well.

mosley - over the hill.
hatton - not his optimum weight.
marquez - no where close to his best fighting weight.
de la hoya - a part time boxer that was also over the hill.
baldomir - just not good enough.

my point is that Floyd only seems to take on fights on his terms only against people he thinks have 0 chance against him and has never sought out a challenge for himself since his light-weight and feather-weight days.

hopefully Pacman can provide that challenge (i doubt it tho, but we shall see).
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:14 PM   #1874
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i think its already been posted that Floyd has hand picked his previous opponents very well.

mosley - over the hill.
hatton - not his optimum weight.
marquez - no where close to his best fighting weight.
de la hoya - a part time boxer that was also over the hill.
baldomir - just not good enough.

my point is that Floyd only seems to take on fights on his terms only and has never sought out a challenge for himself since his light-weight and feather-weight days.

hopefully Pacman can provide that challenge (i doubt it tho, but we shall see).
Fair enough but;

Mosley - seen as THE greatest threat to Floyd beforehand by alot of boxingexperts. The number 1 welterweight.

Hatton - True to a certain degree, although he had fought and beat highly rated Collazo at the weight. It is also pretty fair to say Hatton punished his body quite hard to make 140 in the first place.

Marquez - true.

De la Hoya - not prime at all but a fight noone would have said no to. He catapulted both Pacquiao and Mayweather to ppv-selling machines.

Baldomir - absolutely not an elitefighter looking back but he was the lineal champ.

It is true that Mayweather has a few kinks in his resume, but so does every fighter.
Fighting and handling Mosley like he did deserves respect however.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:24 PM   #1875
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Fair enough but;

Mosley - seen as THE greatest threat to Floyd beforehand by alot of boxingexperts. The number 1 welterweight. / this is surely pacman that is greatest threat.

Hatton - True to a certain degree, although he had fought and beat highly rated Collazo at the weight. It is also pretty fair to say Hatton punished his body quite hard to make 140 in the first place. / hatton was gifted victory v collazo, and imo he was a shadow of himself fighting only 7lbs heavier.

Marquez - true.

De la Hoya - not prime at all but a fight noone would have said no to. He catapulted both Pacquiao and Mayweather to ppv-selling machines. / more about the money than the fighting then.

Baldomir - absolutely not an elitefighter looking back but he was the lineal champ. / champ or not he was no threat to Floyd and should not have even been allowed to share a ring with him.

It is true that Mayweather has a few kinks in his resume, but so does every fighter.
Fighting and handling Mosley like he did deserves respect however.
btw i said after he was rocked and made a great recovery V Mosley this is the best ive seen from Floyd in quite some time, and he has my respect after this performance (hollow victory but what to hell).

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