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03-14-2015 , 07:33 PM
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Agreed. I directed and switched the world feed and was amazed that the fight went the distance.
Ah that's cool that you did the fight. Doing Manyweather Pacquaio ?

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Originally Posted by TheLeviathan
wasn't egregious by any means but i think you maybe give a warrior like josesito the count
I'd of liked to see the ref at least start counting, rather than insta waiving it off. I don't think it matters, but I also don't think Lopez was in serious medical danger, so I favor it going on.

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idk. fight confirmed for me that berto is just never ever gonna be anything other than a b level fighter. he just is not good. josesito looked good until that round. gotta admire that guy. constantly the b side in fights and usually as a smaller man. decent scrap i think lopez was winning the majority of the rounds until that KO. kind of sad to see a guy like lopez be a journeyman gatekeeper type with guys just plain bigger than him he really deserves better
Lopez was muscling Berto. Berto has that talent. He's as talented as Broner, but looks even less fulfilling on the execution side. We just fall in love with guys who have fast hands. Nevermind that Berto's accuracy and strategy is weak. There's a lot more to boxing than fast hands. We need to all look at boxers like wideouts in football. Fastest isn't best.

Gary Russell is losing to Gonzalez, right?
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03-14-2015 , 09:11 PM
Yeah. Shouldn't even be close. Gonzalez has lost two fights in the last 6 years both to fighters tougher than anybody Russell has fought.
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03-14-2015 , 10:36 PM
Fairly tame sparring session there for Chilemba. The other guy had no idea how to solve Chilemba's tricky style.
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03-14-2015 , 11:22 PM
Close unexciting fight here. Maybe 5-3 Cunningham. Could see 6-2 or 4-4 (latter being pretty loose scoring but within realm I think).

Glazgov needs to throw more and he could probably pull this one out. If Cunningham moves a bit more and stays tight and quick with the jab he should win easily.
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03-14-2015 , 11:40 PM
Cunningham edged this one out I'd imagine. Early rounds were clearly his, latter ones were closer, but he kept throwing a lot whereas Glazgov was more sporadic. And neither fighter was really hurt throughout.

Edit - UD Glazgov, that's surprising. Tough fight to see at home though I think. Hard to see a lot of those partial hits and the impact they were (or weren't) having.
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03-14-2015 , 11:50 PM
b.s.
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03-14-2015 , 11:52 PM
go pascal!

i dont really believe but, yeah.
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03-15-2015 , 12:20 AM
Kovalev goes straight back too much on the defense. Pascal's speed is his best weapon so far, but Kovalev should continue to chip away. That jab is so heavy.

Some lower blows too from Pascal.

Fun fight, making up for the earlier duds.
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03-15-2015 , 12:32 AM
what a terrible ****ing stoppage
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03-15-2015 , 12:32 AM
jesus christ

****off

so ****ing anticlimactic
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03-15-2015 , 12:34 AM
He couldn't even walk when Kovalev slipped. He looked out on his feet for the most part.
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03-15-2015 , 12:35 AM
pascal slipped on the towel.

of any part in this fight that pascal was dazed this was the worst time to stop it, with his hands up
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03-15-2015 , 12:38 AM
Good stoppage imo. That could have been nasty, the dude could barely walk in a straight line.
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03-15-2015 , 01:00 AM
Pascal was about 5 seconds away from getting KOed.
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03-15-2015 , 01:01 AM
and you wouldve said the same thing in the first few rounds when pascal got rocked, then went on to win round 5 and 6
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03-15-2015 , 01:18 AM
I initially thought maybe it was premature, but replay made it clear that was stopped at exactly the right time.
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03-15-2015 , 02:15 AM
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03-15-2015 , 06:56 AM
Was the fight bet. Pascal/Kovalev even close? Stoppage doesn't look egregious. He seemed to be out on his feet for the entire video that Chicago posted.

Seems that Cunningham got screwed once again while Glazkov luckboxes another decision.
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03-15-2015 , 07:56 AM
Looked like a good stoppage to me.
Anyone with a huge chin is going to be in serious danger if they get to that point against Kovalev.
I thought Kovalev not getting the stoppage against Hopkins was kind of bull**** and I wanted Hopkins to win.

I think Kovalev destroys Stevenson.
Kovalev vs Ward is the real super fight/boxing master class.
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03-15-2015 , 08:26 AM
Didn't watch the fight unfortunately as I had some social events to attend(!) and no offense to Kirbynator but he is a CANUCK iirc heh so gotta give him some slack for his homerism ldo. Sounds like a better fight than I would have expected. I'll watch the replay today. Pretty bummed out Cunningham got jobbed again. That dude deserves better. Although caveat I didn't watch that either obv.


Also fwiw I'm not not necessarily convinced Russell will lose to Gonzalez. I'm admittedly biased towards some of the flashier guys and I still think Mares takes Gonzo in a rematch. I think it is a great fight to make on paper. Good to see Russell's handlers finally say **** it and not have him fight a bunch of "TBAs" again after his loss to Loma. Gotta wonder why in the world they didn't give him any stepping stones though. It was like scrub scrub scrub Loma Gonzo. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. What are the odds on this fight I can't seem to find them...


Edit- apparently he beat some other scrub in December after Loma so I'm technically wrong here but not really

Double edit- It seems BLH had Glasgov up 117-111 on the scorecards while the HBO team had Cunningham up. "jobbed" seems like it was inaccurate and maybe just a hard fight to score. IDK all this is hearsay I will watch the fight today. Looks like the scores were all over the place judging by the BLH comments. Maybe I won't watch this after all as it sounds pretty boring heh.

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03-15-2015 , 09:22 AM
Fwiw the Sky studio experts (UK) thought that Cunningham probably edged it but that it was tough to score and could have gone either way.
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03-15-2015 , 12:14 PM
Confirmed boring fight. I watched the whole thing basically cause i didn't want to miss any of the next fight. I think Cunningham won, but I was probably influenced by the HBO team. He definitely was more active in a fight that had little real action. The hbo team felt that was good enough to win. They weren't really complaining much he got jobbed though. They were more like "meh, whatever, on to the next fight"
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03-15-2015 , 12:27 PM
The main event was great though. In the moment pascal wanted to keep fighting and the HBO team was taking rematch, but I doubt he really wants that. he caught kovalev with some great counters and it still didn't matter much.

At this point unless he has major money issues I don't really see an upside to him putting his body through that again. His chin is probably too good for his own good as he basically seems to go out on his feet, which is probably worse than getting knocked down cause he will keep taking punishment.
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03-15-2015 , 02:46 PM
No question Kovalev is the GGG of LHW. The only boxer currently at LHW with a chance to beat him is Adonis Stevenson. There are a few SMW who could move up and fight him like Froch, Ward, or JCC Jr. They would have a chance. Otherwise, Kovalev is the King.
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03-15-2015 , 03:44 PM
stevenson could knock kovalev out, but hes way more likely to get knocked out fast than pascal.

gonna be some fireworks for sure. Probably kovalev winning by KO first 3.
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