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Originally Posted by Thremp
Anyone (YB2009) who has this idealized view of their sport at the top level is just out of touch with reality and economics. The arguments for Mayweather doing this out of genuine concern are so convoluted and have to assume he's from such an unlikely to exist segment of the population (non cheaters who don't realize other people cheat) that its basically guessing at theoretical motivations that could exist.
PS: No one takes steroids for aerobic performance. Its to improve recovery. In the same way that baseball players take them. Please don't correct me with errors. kthxbai
It's not an idealized view at all. I happen to think professional boxing is one of the sleaziest sports that exists because of the lack of oversight, in part due with having so many different sanctioning bodies, and has a level of corruption unlike few other sports. So before you make assumptions at least get a feel for what a person is speaking about. Or better yet, back it up with some facts or experience, not just conjecture.
As well I said I have no idea what happens at the highest levels of pro, and do expect there is some use. But that the use is gravely misunderstood by people such as yourself, "Zomg its got to be riddled with steroids ...it has to, cuz like look at baseball and football, and well its hard training so there. wtfurdumbkbai" ridiculousness.
What I am saying it that it is not really in the sport at the highest amateur levels. And gave some reasons to explain why. I am not naive to think it is just our little corner of the planet that is this way. For I have to say, I know of many steroid users, football players, other athletes right here in my city, yet across this whole country, the Unites States and any person I know even globally, and I do know a lot, have I ever run into one who is a steroid cheat. Do they exist? While I'm sure they do. But with so much testing, and so much lack of any results that were positive for use, it is a fair statement to make. In fact, most of the steroid users I personally know of and met, were these heavy weight lifting know all be all aggressive types not related to doing any sports. Just ya know, "get hooge. Get big, get strong, whatever the cost. if ya dont want to be big then yera moran, moran." Who's this sound like?
I don't completely have a physical reason for why it isn't in use more, because it could help with our level of training activity. But then again, most of us boxers are "brainwashed" if you will
into believing mass is bad and heavy lifting and need for growth hormones would be a fools venture, especially when we forever are trying to make weight. That's just how many of us think. I don't agree with it, but it obviously is in our thinking. Visit any boxing training forum.
So does it exist in boxing? Yes, it does. Is it rampant like with other sports, no, likely not. Is themp in an argument for the sake of it again, just lashing out with a POV and thinking he's the smartest guy in the history of ever? Is he out of his depth in this one as often is, trying to pick innerweb fights in an effort to compensate for something lacking? Well of course he is, this is thremp, don't be silly.
(Will i read his response? naw, he's a one trick pony)
and p.s. I think Mayweather is a douchebag. Can't stand the man. But he's a talented one, and I believe completely free of steroids and just using it for leverage against the ones that possibly are. That's just how the guy rolls in negotiations. And if it has a positive effect cleaning up any use in the sport, it is safe to put your money on...'by greedy accident."