Froch is a dick and I had money on Groves winning by decision, but anybody arguing that stoppage is a troll. Groves was ktfo. Shame because he was winning regardless of what that moron Watt believes.

I know, incredible. Being asleep with your leg crumpled under you isn't enough nowadays.

Thought it was a great fight and happy it ended with no controversy.

Groves done very well against a very good champion.

lol, man that punch knocks down a horse until at least 5.

Del Valle-Rosa and Fortuna-Rodriquez on. LODV-LR is a good brawl through 2.

I meant if a third fight ever happens again, it'll be in 2+ years and I don't know how likely that even is (mostly due to what you say, Froch retiring in the near future).

I do think Froch has more than one fight left in him, as long as he doesn't get embarrassed vs his next opponent. Why would he retire after beating JCC? Hardly anyone does that, so I'd bet against it.

If DeGale doesn't command enough to fight Froch, think Froch gets an exception or he pays DeGale step aside money (then DeGale fights Groves I guess)?

I sure hope GGG steals Froch, not JCC.

True, but I think that Maidana rematch would do far better. Gotta remember, the PPV #s are based on how many people were interested in buying it before the fight, not after. I think a rematch should crack a million buys.

Another thing to keep in mind, it's like $75+ now for a PPV. A few years back it was often $50 or so for PPVs. A million buys at $75 is like 1.5 million buys at $50 (a little less bc of inflation I suppose). Also the gate was one of the bigger gates in MGM history. That fight definitely made people money and it was likely a weaker draw in the 6 fight deal he has with Showtime.

Catching up on the Asian card, I don't understand: Donaire wins a 4 round fight. He knocks his opponent down clearly.

All three judges score the bout 49-46.

1) It was a 4 round fight.
2) There was a knockdown, clearly.

How is the fight 49-46? It should be something like 38-37, 39-36... just a misread? Media is reporting it as 49-46 too.

Reading some media, Donaire told the ref he couldn't see after he came out to start round 5, but before the bell rang. So possibly judges scored round 5, and scored it 10-10?

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On another note, Walters looks good. A bit awkward, but not in a bad way. Gradovich would be fun to watch fight a guy like Santa Cruz. Two high frequency punchers that aren't that powerful, but will keep coming at each other.... too bad we'll never see that. I'd enjoy seeing Gradovich vs any of the other champs though. He may not beat any of them, but it'd be fun to see him try.

Froch should probably retire now. The last punch he threw in the ring was the best of his career, and would be a great way to bow out.

However the money will just be too good to retire. I'm guessing he made close to as much from Groves 2 as he made in the rest of his career put together and with 2-3 more fights he can probably make the same again.

Yes.

Fair play to Froch .. he proved me wrong again, so he has now earned my respect.

Granted ... hes going to be even more insufferable in interviews for a good few months now.

Calzaghe would have just toyed with him though

He's already been interviewed this morning on SSN, lets just say he wasn't shy in telling the world how good his life was.

Had a brilliant career though so can't really begrudge him of the plaudits that are coming his way.

lol, supposedly DeGale called Groves "chinny" for going down to that punch last night. That can't make DeGale much good, since he has lost to him twice.

Can you imagine the pre-fight ego driven drivel we would get if Froch was to fight DeGale ?

Great fight, loved it.

I had Froch 1 round ahead going into the 8th. What a shot tho, I didn't even see it in real time.

Nick Halling and Jim Watt where utter garbage last night ..

It was weird of Jim Watt to be so pro Groves in the first fight but completely the opposite in the second.

Enjoyed listening to Paulie even if his mic volume did seem a bit low.

Im also pretty convinced your fella that Mitchell fought took a dive in the 11th

yeah i thought the same.

As far as Calzaghe goes, it's a shame the fight didn't happen with Froch, but it was an era where fighters had protected careers fighting nobodys.

The way Froch's career has gone it's probably worked out for the best. He's now a bigger draw and can retire knowing he hasn't ducked anyone - an early loss to Calzaghe might have changed all that.

I agree with people saying the referee should have counted to ten. Groves was done but on a different day he might not have been. I have seen a few occasions before when a guy looks like he's unconscious get waved off just as he was about to get up. In this instance it turned out to irrelevant though.

British refs once again showed how terrible they are when it comes to quick stoppages last night. The Kevin Mitchell and particularly the Degale fight were dreadful stoppages.

Groves was unconscious for 3-4 seconds though. I don't know, it just seems very irresponsible of the ref to allow a fighter to regain consciousness to try and beat the count.

In fairness to fast car Eddie .. hes obviously trying to push the boat out and get UK boxing to the next level ..

Unfortunately .. Sky are still pretty crap in how it does boxing, they have the same guys they had 10 years ago and half of them need to be removed.

A lot of Sky pundits just roll out the same crap and almost seem reluctant to say anything negative about the home fighter because it might cost them any future paid work.

Glen McCrory looked and sounded like he had had one too many to me.

Even Ed Robinson ( who i thought was one of the better Sky guys ) was trying to persuade Amir Khan to say Froch was well ahead when he was obviously saying Groves was ahead on the cards.

I would love to hear Malignaggi's honest opinions on what he was hearing last night ... especially Halling's because he seemed to pot shot at Malignaggi's boxing achievements for whatever reason.

Everything Sky last night seemed totally biased towards Froch for whatever reason .. maybe because Groves has already decided to be promoted by Sauerland.

You can clearly see the ref check groves before waving it off. 100% correct call.

Hap,

Froch is sky's boxing cash cow. They will always be biased towards him.

Ed Robinson is by far the best Sky have when it comes to boxing pundits / presenters.

For those who think the ref was too quick to stop it...