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02-25-2014 , 07:36 PM
money may opening up to as high as 14-1


supposedly would have "only" opened up at about 8-1 for khan. no idea of the truth of that, but feels somewhat plausible given the sports betting in the U.K.

pretty big odds though. much more than even v guerrero. gotta believe that canelo fight was one of the better values in a long time in the sport since it was like 2-1 or 3-1 for floyd. really easy to say after the fact of course

i'm one of the few who would still watch khan fight anyone cuz entertainment will be had one way or another. i would not mind khan-porter, with porter smashing his face in and becoming a worldwide name. I like the guy
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02-25-2014 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mutigers5591
i'm one of the few who would still watch khan fight anyone cuz entertainment will be had one way or another. i would not mind khan-porter, with porter smashing his face in and becoming a worldwide name. I like the guy
+1

Khan has heart even if he has no chin.
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02-27-2014 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Consty
Listening to an Eddie Hearn interview last night he says Khan's been offered $5m to fight Kell Brook. Brook v Porter has to happen before July, the only way it doesn't happen is if the Khan fight can be made.
That seems crazy. Khan is nowhere near that popular.

To put it into perspective, Martinez made 1.2 mil vs Chavez (who made 3 mil) in their fight.

Not many fighters get over 5 mil per fight.

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
AB on Money's undercard would be a sick card imo assuming AB fights a solid opponent.

AB vs Khan plz
I'd love for that to happen, but AB was one of the biggest non PPV draws in 2013, I can't imagine his draw goes down so far with one loss that he's not worth a Saturday night non PPV main event. Then again, Garcia Matthyse was Saturday night non PPV material and they put that on the undercard. Maybe they want to strengthen Floyd's main event.

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Bet365 had Khan Floyd odds. I want to say it was like -1100 for Floyd.

I see in October it was -1000 for Floyd and December there were some -1200 (googling around for the odds and looking at older dated articles).

So, not much different than against Maidana. Punters bought into the hand speed propaganda a bit though imo. Maybe Floyd should've picked a flyweight to fight.
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02-27-2014 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
That seems crazy. Khan is nowhere near that popular.

To put it into perspective, Martinez made 1.2 mil vs Chavez (who made 3 mil) in their fight.

Not many fighters get over 5 mil per fight.
Here's the interview, Khan talk from 9:30

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02-27-2014 , 09:53 AM
Good article on the four big PPVs that are coming up (PPV in the US, anyway) It's ridiculous how much Americans have to pay to be a boxing fan, assuming they do it legally.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...-expenditures/
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02-27-2014 , 01:43 PM
It's about 20 bucks for the movie theater events, which isn't too bad. Esp if you don't have friends who like boxing, at least you are guaranteed some boxing fans around you. Bring a flask and meet some undesirables.


But yes usually I end up going the unsavory route, or going to BWW or Hooters
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02-28-2014 , 04:53 AM
Wow, Consty, Hearn claims 5 million pounds, so like $8m USD offered to Khan to fight Brook.

That seems insane. Also, Khan says he's not even considering Brook bc he wants to fight in the USA and Brook isn't a big enough name...

Something isn't adding up here lol.

mutigers, I'm going to watch Canelo Angulo in a theater for $17 or so I believe. I'd do something like that every time, I hate BWW and Hooters crowds/food. Just miserable.

Last Floyd fight I paid $15 or $20 to a Mexican restaurant, it wasn't a good one either, food was garbage. Had to pay for gf too and she wasn't even interested (in fairness I got there for the very first undercard fight). There just aren't enough places out here that show big fights (bars), the price must be too high for the draw. UFC fights are shown at plenty of decent sports bars downtown, but not Floyd fights.

I'm flying to San Antonio to see JCC fight with a friend though. I got Salido +501 (and Stieglitz -275, and Crawford -260). Big weekend!
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02-28-2014 , 04:58 AM
Salido an interesting bet. His opponent certianly looks likes a super elite prospect but you never know, Salido has def been around the block and fought the best. I am really excited for that fight (although I was for Garcia-Salido too, even surprised by the odds against Salido, and lol me)


i'm really surprised crawford is that big of a fave over burns though

Full disclosure I have only seen 1 Burns fight and 1 or 2 Crawford fights but in Glasgow that seems a bit iffy to me with the way boxing is. Can't really see Crawford as a KO threat? Don't think Burns is really any good fwiw. Just don't trust lol judges. Not entirely sold on Crawford either. His Prescott win was a super nice surprise on an HBO undercard, but still need to see a bit more. I think this is a really good fight though. Crawford's style not really a great draw for the crowd but I look forward to it.

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02-28-2014 , 05:48 AM
Yea it's a combo of me believing in Crawford as a very legit fighter and me being pretty low on Burns (he's won what, like 3 or 4 fights now that he should've lost? Not just loljudges, but the broken hand thing too...)

I should've looked into who is judging and cross referenced it before booking (I heard there's a boxing judge rating site, I can't find it, anyone know of it?).

Reasoning for my other two bets:

Abraham looks like he's done to me too, even 3 fights ago in Abraham Stielgitz II, he basically just covered up and got hit for 3 rounds.

Salido fight, I just don't think he should be that big of an underdog. Lomachenko is moving way up from fight 1 to 2 here. Fight 1 was certainly impressive, but Salido is in another ballpark as far as quality of opposition goes. Salido can lose 80% of time and I still am making good money with that bet.

Btw, Khan (according to therichest.com) made 1.5 mil vs Lamont Peterson, 1 mil vs Carlos Molina, 1 mil vs Danny Garcia and 600k vs Julio Diaz. 8 mil vs Brook seems nuts to me, but I'm not in that industry so maybe I'm missing something. Perhaps Hearn's actual offer allows Khan to cap out at 8mil if the fight sells like bananas. Promoters tend to exaggerate at times (see Schaefer's recent Maidana quotes).
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02-28-2014 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
Wow, Consty, Hearn claims 5 million pounds, so like $8m USD offered to Khan to fight Brook.

That seems insane. Also, Khan says he's not even considering Brook bc he wants to fight in the USA and Brook isn't a big enough name...

Something isn't adding up here lol.
He actually offered $5 million. I'm not sure why he is making an offer in dollars though.

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Yea it's a combo of me believing in Crawford as a very legit fighter and me being pretty low on Burns (he's won what, like 3 or 4 fights now that he should've lost? Not just loljudges, but the broken hand thing too...)
It's just is last 2 fights he's looked bad in. He was getting beat by a Puerto Rican guy no one had ever heard of before that guy quit. Then he escaped with a draw against Ray Beltran which was a complete robbery. I have never seen Crawford fight and the only name I recognise on his record is Breidis Prescott so it could be interesting. But Lomachenko vs Salido is definitely the fight I'm most looking forward to that night.
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02-28-2014 , 10:20 AM


Knockout of the year candidate here. Brutal.

Skip first 3 minutes to see the fight.
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02-28-2014 , 02:31 PM
Ahhh, we have finally arrived on March's doorstep, and three straight weekends of big-time fights!!

Gut says Crawford/Lomachenko/Chavez tomorrow, wallet won't be backing up any of those picks though. Quite a few notable young prospects in action tonight and tomorrow night.

Sublime KO by Sonsona in that video right above me. Love how he was kind of smirking the whole fight, love his legitimate exuberance. Amazing punch!
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02-28-2014 , 04:23 PM
If Chavez comes into this fight in good shape, a KO is almost a certainty imo

If he comes in the way he did in the last fight, maybe the judges will wake up and not favor daddy's little boy for the decision.
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02-28-2014 , 04:25 PM
I really really hope Vera can pull it out


if Chavez is gonna win I at least want him to ****in make weight and win it deservedly. I think Vera has awful D and terrible head movement though so I would not be surprised if gets knocked out. I'm halfway expecting it as well.

edit- chavez made weight, salido is over, but still fighting
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02-28-2014 , 04:40 PM
Can't believe GGG's next opponent hasn't been announced yet. Andy Lee seemed to be the favorite, but people are tossing in Daniel Geale and Martin Murray as possible opponents, but Geale has bailed on it due to a competing UFC match in Australia.

Arum supposedly wants to set up GGG/JCC Jr in mid-July. If JCC Jr loses to Vera, that won't happen.

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02-28-2014 , 05:08 PM
Chavez makes weight, Salido does not - tips at 128.25, makes no second weigh-in attempt.

Crawford's bout to get off on Burns, been watching their fights all day.

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I'm flying to San Antonio to see JCC fight with a friend though.
Jealous! Gonna be a great show. San Antonio is a fun town, too. Post pictures!
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02-28-2014 , 06:26 PM
Shobox with Love and Badou Jack tonight as well as the middleweight quarterfinals in FNF's boxcino tournament


the lightweight boxcino qfs were really entertaining
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02-28-2014 , 08:29 PM
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He actually offered $5 million. I'm not sure why he is making an offer in dollars though.
Ah, I see now, half the articles say 8 million USD (5 mil pounds), the other half say 5 mill USD (2.x mil pounds).

Either # seems quite high though given what Khan has made in recent years and that Brook isn't a massive draw or anything and the US market has less interest in Khan vs Brook than they did for some of those previous Khan fights.

Maybe Hearn was just talking about the cost of Khan's wedding (ridiculous) - http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/ne...wedding_venue/

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It's just is last 2 fights he's looked bad in. He was getting beat by a Puerto Rican guy no one had ever heard of before that guy quit. Then he escaped with a draw against Ray Beltran which was a complete robbery. I have never seen Crawford fight and the only name I recognise on his record is Breidis Prescott so it could be interesting. But Lomachenko vs Salido is definitely the fight I'm most looking forward to that night.
The last two fights are certainly important though, he was down through 9 rounds when his opponent broke his hand in one and quit, and the other he clearly lost and broke his jaw.

Vs a weaker opponent I wouldn't bet, but Crawford looks like a really good, slick boxer.

Agreed about Lomachenko Salido, if Salido wins it will mean he pressured and beat up Lomachenko all night. If Lomachenko wins it means Salido got torn up, bc that guy is like Angulo, he keeps coming forward until they stop the fight.

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Gut says Crawford/Lomachenko/Chavez tomorrow, wallet won't be backing up any of those picks though. Quite a few notable young prospects in action tonight and tomorrow night.

Sublime KO by Sonsona in that video right above me. Love how he was kind of smirking the whole fight, love his legitimate exuberance. Amazing punch!
That KO was absolutely great.

Your predictions are likely true, Crawford is the least likely to win and he's something like 70-75% likely to win.

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Chavez makes weight, Salido does not - tips at 128.25, makes no second weigh-in attempt.
Salido doesn't even try to lose the extra 2lbs, pays 15k for 2.25 lbs, just about the best thing possible for my wager on him lol.

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Jealous! Gonna be a great show. San Antonio is a fun town, too. Post pictures!
Will do, haven't been to anything big outside of Alvarado Provo, pretty excited.

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Can't believe GGG's next opponent hasn't been announced yet. Andy Lee seemed to be the favorite, but people are tossing in Daniel Geale and Martin Murray as possible opponents, but Geale has bailed on it due to a competing UFC match in Australia.

Arum supposedly wants to set up GGG/JCC Jr in mid-July. If JCC Jr loses to Vera, that won't happen.
Arum reps JCC but not Ward, so I'd imagine that's why he wants GGG vs JCC instead of GGG vs Ward. Also, GGG is super popular now, his Stevens fight was one of the biggest non PPV draws last year, so it's about time good fighters will fight him (for big $$ obviously).
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03-01-2014 , 06:01 PM
DeGale made a big mistake trying to take the round off. Dominating otherwise though.

EDIT: DeGale toying with him now. He could have finished him in the 9th.

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 03-01-2014 at 06:18 PM. Reason: Ref stoppage at the end of the 11th. gjge Khatchikian
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03-01-2014 , 06:22 PM
And the third part of the trilogy of Arthur Abraham/Robert Stieglitz is set to begin. Anybody else watching?

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 03-01-2014 at 06:24 PM. Reason: Carl Froch live at the match
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03-01-2014 , 06:26 PM
Watchin Burns v Crawford
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03-01-2014 , 06:31 PM
Good finish from DeGale but I still don't really believe in him.
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03-01-2014 , 06:40 PM
Seems that Stieglitz is getting the better of Abraham. Close first round, second round def Stieglitz
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03-01-2014 , 06:52 PM
British fans are funny.

*Crawford smacks Burns around*

Fans: *silence*

*Burns lands a single overhand right*

Fans: OMG AWESOME

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 03-01-2014 at 06:54 PM. Reason: no longer watching the Krauts. Too much of a hugfest.
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03-01-2014 , 06:58 PM
Not many Nebraskans in Glasgow I guess, weird huh?
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