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11-01-2013 , 08:58 PM
Seems like a fight with Murray is very possible. Froch too maybe.

Mayweather/GGG would be a great fight, but will obviously never happen.
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11-01-2013 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PlzBeALevel
Seems like a fight with Murray is very possible. Froch too maybe.

Mayweather/GGG would be a great fight, but will obviously never happen.
I think Hatton announced Murray is fighting for a title early next year. Doubt it's GGG. He was offered the fight before and it was declined. I don't think they want anything to do with GGG. (like all of europe lol)

Would love to see Froch v. GGG. What a war.
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11-02-2013 , 05:23 AM
GGG still isn't a huge draw. It's building, but even for the Stevens fight he's barely making half a million.

Once he's a bigger draw I'd expect more top MW to fight him. That's kind of how it always goes it seems.

I don't really think any top fighters are afraid of each other. Half the time they think they've won even when they lose. It's just the promoters aren't idiots and aren't going to send their Geale/Barker/Sturm/Murray's to a very real possibility of being embarrassed if they aren't getting paid a lot for it.

Also, up until the Rosado fight (Macklin fight perhaps even), if someone good beat GGG they would 1) have been paid less for the fight to begin with than vs a more popular but perhaps worse fighter; and 2) people would say "well GGG was a hard puncher, but I guess he couldn't really box." People can't really say that anymore and he's getting more popular, so provided tomorrow goes well, 2014 should see some better matchups for Golovkin. Win early, win often, fight the best available.

GGG's team is playing it smart. He's been very active, and he's fighting some recognizable fighters (Rosado, Macklin, even Stevens). I personally think Macklin has proven he's pretty darn good, the other two are definitely not top tier, but it's the best you can do when you're not that well known to the larger boxing audience.

Last edited by ChicagoRy; 11-02-2013 at 05:28 AM. Reason: this is coming from a guy that doesn't see anyone clearly better at 154-168 right now
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11-02-2013 , 10:57 AM
Interesting little clash in the UK b4 GGG



Both undefeated heavies
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11-02-2013 , 12:19 PM
Golovkin-Stevens U6.5 Total is -220 which basically seems like printing money.
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11-02-2013 , 12:21 PM
i may have a small wager on that
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11-02-2013 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
GGG still isn't a huge draw. It's building, but even for the Stevens fight he's barely making half a million.

Once he's a bigger draw I'd expect more top MW to fight him. That's kind of how it always goes it seems.

I don't really think any top fighters are afraid of each other. Half the time they think they've won even when they lose. It's just the promoters aren't idiots and aren't going to send their Geale/Barker/Sturm/Murray's to a very real possibility of being embarrassed if they aren't getting paid a lot for it.

Also, up until the Rosado fight (Macklin fight perhaps even), if someone good beat GGG they would 1) have been paid less for the fight to begin with than vs a more popular but perhaps worse fighter; and 2) people would say "well GGG was a hard puncher, but I guess he couldn't really box." People can't really say that anymore and he's getting more popular, so provided tomorrow goes well, 2014 should see some better matchups for Golovkin. Win early, win often, fight the best available.

GGG's team is playing it smart. He's been very active, and he's fighting some recognizable fighters (Rosado, Macklin, even Stevens). I personally think Macklin has proven he's pretty darn good, the other two are definitely not top tier, but it's the best you can do when you're not that well known to the larger boxing audience.
Great post.

I don't think I would invest much in how much GGG is getting paid as an indicator of popularity. E-rod is getting a million plus for fighting ward, which is just ridic. Plus a guy like haymon can guarantee his fighters a lot of money, regardless if they're a big draw or even popular (see berto).

GGG gets pretty good rating when he fights, but you're right, he can't sell tickets to arenas.

The way I see it is all of the top and european MWs will only talk about GGG when 1) GGG is fighting or just fought, 2) when they're about to fight. I think you're right, the money isn't right to essentially get KO'd at MSG. Still, it's a path to start becoming recognized in the U.S. for a lot of the euro fighters and give them legitimacy (even in a loss).

To me it seems like GGG will basically fight anyone who's willing at this point. I can't even count how many times I've read about their team approaching fights z, y, and z and getting denied. Obviously it's the promoters/managers etc. who won't let their fighter fight, but it seems like a cop-out to say, "well my promoter doesn't think it's a good thing." Esp. with a guy like Murray, he's fighting some no-name instead. I suppose an L could be bad for their career, but maybe not as bad as fighting a no-namer, which seems like regression. I guess I shouldn't question the promotion strategy, but at the same time, I don't like hearing fighters say they will fight GGG and then balk when the opportunity arises. Everyone says they will fight him, few actually do. Hopefully GGG has a sub-par performance tonight, so more fighter will think he's vulnerable and will actually accept lol.
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11-02-2013 , 02:25 PM
Nah. If the elephant keeps eating eventually he gets too big for the room.
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11-02-2013 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by x_ROSH125_x
Interesting little clash in the UK b4 GGG



Both undefeated heavies
LOL Towers, could barely walk. Turned to his opponents corner after it was stopped telling them he was OK, didn't have a clue where he was.
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11-02-2013 , 06:16 PM
Luke Campbell looks terrible here against a full time mechanic, obv Sky still hyping him to the hilt.

Edit: terrible might be a bit harsh but I def do not see a WOW factor with him
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11-02-2013 , 10:04 PM
Roth's draw on that one seemed kinda bad. The other guy was hitting glove most of the fight, aside from the last round or two.
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11-02-2013 , 10:11 PM
Heavyweights. Dis gonna be gud.
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11-02-2013 , 10:11 PM
Hate heavyweights but have to cheer for the Cuban-black-Irish guy.
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11-02-2013 , 10:13 PM
just bombing from the start
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11-02-2013 , 10:15 PM
10-9 Perez
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11-02-2013 , 10:16 PM
This is pure entertainment. Love it.
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11-02-2013 , 10:16 PM
don't think you're gonna have to worry about scoring this one tbh
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11-02-2013 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Moocher
don't think you're gonna have to worry about scoring this one tbh


10-9
9-10

Great so far
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11-02-2013 , 10:24 PM
10-9
9-10
9-10

Both guys getting gassed. Especially Perez
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11-02-2013 , 10:28 PM
This is awesome. I love it when two ogres beat each other up.
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11-02-2013 , 10:28 PM
Howard Lederman so bad.

10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10

Abdu really breaking him down imo
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11-02-2013 , 10:32 PM
Perez with a second wind. 5 great rounds so far.

10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10
10-9
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11-02-2013 , 10:36 PM
totally even after 6 imo. HBO guys way overstating Perez's performance.
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11-02-2013 , 10:37 PM
Perez up by 2, Mago won't see the 12th blah
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11-02-2013 , 10:40 PM
Perez 4-3

Abdusalamov won't recognize himself after the fight
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