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10-05-2013 , 05:48 PM
****ty second half. The first four rounds looked as if there would be an ounce of entertainment value.

Shoving Pov's head down the whole fight made it impossible. Props to Sasha for trying to be aggressive and get inside buy shame on a ref for letting that slide.

Looking forward to Cotto-Rodriguez. It's something that shouldn't suck at least.
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10-05-2013 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
is Anthony Joshua any good?
Yeah, he's good

Very impressive debut
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10-05-2013 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by x_ROSH125_x
Yeah, he's good

Very impressive debut
yeah he looked pretty good from what I saw
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10-05-2013 , 09:21 PM
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10-05-2013 , 09:25 PM
heh


about 2 more years or so before he fights someone with a pulse i imagine

the lolbritain will come!
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10-05-2013 , 11:30 PM
I want Deontay Wilder to start fighting names. Guy looks like a beast, but his opponents are ****.

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10-05-2013 , 11:44 PM
crawford might be legit someone to watch for down the line. he is young and has looked pretty good. not very long ago at all that he was lucky to sub in an hbo fight and systematically pick apart prescott. I like what i am seein from him so far in his career

anyway WAR COTTO


I STILL BELIEVE. but rodriguez has a nice weight/reach advantage. i really don't like cotto at 154 but it is what it is now i guess. i think he got outmuscled by trout pretty handily. i thought the natural weight difference was noticeable
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10-05-2013 , 11:57 PM
Does Delvin really suck this much? I mean he was handpicked as a comeback fight and is not expected to do much, but this is just awful.

He's slow and has no power. gg

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And the fight is over. Would normally criticize the ref for not letting him even try to get up, but Rodriguez was doing almost nothing in the ring.

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10-06-2013 , 12:03 AM
Clearly outmatched but seemed like a turrible stoppage.

Canelo -Cotto?


Ref making sure he doesn't get up by tackling him.
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10-06-2013 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
Clearly outmatched but seemed like a turrible stoppage.

Canelo -Cotto?
In normal cases, yes. But Rodriguez wasn't even trying to hurt Cotto. Letting him up would just inevitably need to another knockdown a few seconds later. Good stoppage.

Canelo/Cotto definitely marketable but Canelo would kill him. Cotto is too small for Canelo and doesn't have Mayweather speed to compensate for it.
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10-06-2013 , 12:10 AM
YES

COTTO NOT SHOT BABY

I seriously think he has a shot vs canelo wtih freddy in his corner

but i'm a massively biased as well
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10-06-2013 , 02:54 AM
dvr'd the hbo event.

klitsch starts the fight by holding onto the opponent, kellerman mentions that it's been two tie ups in 15 seconds. i proceed to fast forward to the 12th round, when i hit play max is again bashing klit for being boring as hell, despite having knockdowns in the fight. glad i didnt waste >40 minutes watching that mess.

cotto was ****ing on. his opponent however, was not. but it was still nice to see that left hook make a small comeback.
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10-06-2013 , 09:26 AM
Well, he is boring as hell. No decent ref would stand for the sheer amount of holding, pushing, and throwing in Wlad's game. It's pathetic.

The first knockdown was so weird. It didn't look like he slipped. He wasn't punched hard. It's as though he just fell of his own volition. The second was a blatant throw. The third was really the only obvious knockdown and the last one was pretty borderline. Looked like a mix of a throw and punch to me.

The "offense" in round 7 which was really the only where anything interesting happened was straight AIDS. Just a lot of hitting and clinching inside.
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10-06-2013 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
In normal cases, yes. But Rodriguez wasn't even trying to hurt Cotto. Letting him up would just inevitably need to another knockdown a few seconds later. Good stoppage.

Canelo/Cotto definitely marketable but Canelo would kill him. Cotto is too small for Canelo and doesn't have Mayweather speed to compensate for it.
Yea I think this is almost certainly true and what will decide the fight. *But* when has Cotto ever been killed by anyone? I think it will be an entertaining fight at the very least. I can't imagine Cotto not landing some vicious shots on Canelo. I think it would be a body shot brawl but in the end Canelo just the bigger man. I'm a bit more sober now heh but I do think Cotto would have a puncher's chance honestly, esp with Roach in his corner. IDK I am a huge homer. On the other hand it would be basically impossible for Cotto to win a decision since lolboxing.
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10-06-2013 , 12:46 PM
Jim Lampley GOAT
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10-06-2013 , 12:47 PM
Cotto-Canelo would be a Canelo win and Cotto will look like **** in the end, but it'd be of extremely high entertainment value, esp with Roach in Cotto's corner.

Cotto clearly is prepared to punch his way into retirement. Bad for his health, but great for us fans.
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10-06-2013 , 01:01 PM
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Jim Lampley GOAT


lampley and max are so good together
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10-06-2013 , 05:32 PM
Wladimir Clinchcko once again embarrasses himself. Every time I watch a Wlad fight I tell myself I'll never do it again but I always get sucked in. Stupid me I guess. Hopefully Wlad retires, or better yet, someone pushes him down the stairs to put me out of my misery. Povetkin was crap but at least he tried until the end unlike most Wlad opponents.

All Cotto beating Delvin Rodriguez does is pave the way for Cotto to recieve another brutal beatdown against someone a lot better.
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10-06-2013 , 06:02 PM
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Wladimir Clinchcko once again embarrasses himself. Every time I watch a Wlad fight I tell myself I'll never do it again but I always get sucked in. Stupid me I guess. Hopefully Wlad retires, or better yet, someone pushes him down the stairs to put me out of my misery. Povetkin was crap but at least he tried until the end unlike most Wlad opponents.

All Cotto beating Delvin Rodriguez does is pave the way for Cotto to recieve another brutal beatdown against someone a lot better.
so like mayweather/pac?


i mean he arguably fought mayweather closer than anyone in the last 5 years

he certainly didn't get "brutally beatdown" by trout although he lost
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10-06-2013 , 06:26 PM
The Klitschko Potevkin fight is on Youtube.

I'm not watching.
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10-06-2013 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by themistocles khan
The Klitschko Potevkin fight is on Youtube.

I'm not watching.
I watched the first two rounds, round seven (where the 3 pushdowns happened) and the last round. Not much of a difference between the first and last rounds. Povetkin was knocked down though it looked more like him tripping over his own feet.
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10-06-2013 , 07:59 PM
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so like mayweather/pac?


i mean he arguably fought mayweather closer than anyone in the last 5 years

he certainly didn't get "brutally beatdown" by trout although he lost
I was thinking more along the lines of Pacquiao and Margarito. Trout's a good boxer but he wouldn't be able to brutally beatdown an old woman. And of course Mayweather isn't the brutal beatdown type either, Canelo on the other hand... he might do some very bad things to Cotto.
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10-07-2013 , 02:58 PM
I thought Floyd schooled him pretty hard. Mayweather isn't the type of style that will often lead to the type of knockouts people usually associate with beatdowns. But we could settle for the word "dominated virtually start to finish" and I think it applies. Might even be right about Cotto being closest to Floyd in the last 5 years, but that doesn't mean a lot, the guy is pitching near shutouts half the time. Only Castillo has come close from my memory (though I haven't watched the De La Hoya fight in awhile, I didn't think it was as close as scores indicated at the time). He might've even won that first fight purely from volume (Floyd wasn't firing, and while many Castillo hits weren't direct or doing anything, you have to score rounds to someone).

Interesting to see where Cotto goes next. Alvarez would be a great payday and a shot at getting back into the top of the discussion (beat Alvarez and maybe you can get Floyd at 150-154), but I don't think Cotto has much of a chance vs Alvarez. Alvarez has a lot of speed and power and Cotto leaves himself open to shots far too much for me to feel he can get inside often and effectively without sustaining huge damage.

Basically, the type of fighter Cotto is, it would play right into Canelo's wheelhouse.

Would definitely be a fight I would circle on my calender though, hope it happens.
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10-07-2013 , 03:02 PM
And Marquez has to win, right? Bradley barely won the last fight against a slower slugger, he clearly lost against Manny, he'll sit in front of people and trade shots even though his power is severely lacking against many of those opponents... Marquez is a pretty precise defensive puncher with legitimate knockout capability in both hands... we're going to see a knockout if Bradley in any way fights the same way he's fought forever, right?

I love Bradley though, watching that guy fight... there's few I'd rather watch. But I'm betting Marquez.
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10-07-2013 , 03:47 PM
It was a clear loss but "dominated virtually start to finish" is definitely not the correct term. Cotto had a solid case for winning around 4 round and most rounds that Floyd won were far from dominating even if they were clear.

Clear victory in a competitive fight i would say.
The fact that Cotto did better than anyone else has since Floyd fought Castillo is mostly due to Floyds all time great skills.

As for Bradley vs. Marquez i think it's important to take note of the fact that Marquez really have not looked that great the last few years other than his fights with Pacquiao. I think this tells me he's way on the slide towards becoming "shot" and fighting IQ only take you so far. (look at Morales who outsmarted every recent opponent he fought but couldn't seal the deal due to physical shortcomings)
Bradley looked like he did against the russian (good luck spelling his name) because he was lured into a slugfest. This could happen vs. Marquez too, but something tells me he has learnt his lesson.
With this said, even if he tried to box Marquez he needs to overcome a skill-gap and ability-to-adapt-gap with sheer physique and spoiler tactics. Can he do it? No idea, but the betting market have this quite close, giving Marquez an edge.

And while Bradley DID NOT beat Pac, he did look quite good in that fight and he has looked very good in the past too disposing of Peterson, Holt and Alexander.

My heart is definitely with Marquez on this one but i think it can be very competitive and close.

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