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02-09-2013 , 07:30 PM
Frampton is a star.

Next!
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02-10-2013 , 07:35 AM
Why the f was the Sky commentator keep banging on about a 1 punch flash KO?

He clearly shook him 3-4 times in the 9th round before the stoppage. Kiko looked weak in that round, like Frampton had worn him down. Superb night of boxing.

Why wasnt Frampton working the body more early in the fight though? Slow down the aggressive opponent?
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02-10-2013 , 11:57 AM
My friends and I were having a discussion about why boxing is dying in the US last night. The conclusions were as follows:

1. Too many weight classes/champions. We looked on the ring magazines web site and there were about 70 world champions. Boxing needs 1 govering body, cut to 10 weight classes with 10 champions. I have no idea how this would happen.

2. Lack of great American heavyweights. Until about 2000 America dominated the heavyweight division and boxing was popular. If the Klitschkos were 2 white American brothers who took over the heavyweight division for ten years they would be hugely popular, but they are eastern Europeans so no one cares how many challengers they destroy. Their fights being overseas as opposed to LV doesn't help either

3. The best American athletes just don't go into boxing anymore.

4. Mayweather is a dbag that no one likes and he's the only marketable American star.

5. Bad decisions by judges.

Thoughts?
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02-10-2013 , 12:30 PM
There's good alternatives now. Both for the athletes and the viewing public.
Boxing is not "dying", it's doing quite well and is the largest combat sport on earth.

Rivaling promoters. We don't see GBP vs. TR. That's a huge problem.

Were the best American athletes ever going into boxing as it's main pick?

Mayweather may be a dbag, but how is that bad? He's carrying the sports popularity more or less.

Bad decisions were even more prevalent in earlier eras. It sucks but i'm not sure that's the biggest problem. It is for me as a hardcore but probably not for boxing as a whole.
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02-10-2013 , 12:32 PM
And as i said, boxing is not dying off. New stars are emerging.

Broner, Canelo, Rios, Garcia etc. Ward will be a p4p great for a long time.

It's just the shift of an era.

Heavyweight is shaping up. Lots of british heavies that will run that division when the brothers retire.
Deontay Wilder, Jennings could be for real. We'll know when they step up.


The biggest problem could be that the ppv business is ******ed and not sustainable. Boxing should be on free tv.
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02-10-2013 , 02:33 PM
"Broner, Canelo, Rios, Garcia etc."

Should be "Garcias"
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02-10-2013 , 02:55 PM
Which Garcia are you thinking of?
I'm not sold on Danny yet. But his daddy may become a star.
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02-10-2013 , 05:19 PM
I think Mikey and Danny both have big futures. Mikey is probably the better fighter at this point though.
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02-10-2013 , 07:39 PM
My mind keeps getting changed on a winner of Quigg-Frampton by the very good performances they keep putting on. Frampton's stoppage of Molitor was answered by Quigg's win over Munroe but that right hand that put Kiko Martinez down was great to watch.

Price-Fury and Quigg-Frampton are two British fights we need to see but unfortunately I'm not confident on either happening anytime soon.
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02-11-2013 , 07:57 PM
Angel Garcia is already a star. LOL
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02-11-2013 , 08:54 PM
How many you guys remember the Caballero vs Molitor fight? Up to that point Steve still had an air of uncertainty to him. I was rooting for Molitor but like many thought he may have made a mistake in going Caballero just yet. From a career standpoint. Well, have never before or since seen a look in the eyes of a fighter walking to the ring as then. Was pure fear. Dude was beat beat beat long before getting in. Never really left him since.
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02-11-2013 , 10:53 PM
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02-14-2013 , 05:24 PM
floyd is back with his dad apparently


also broner/rees saturday I believe
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02-14-2013 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sweep single
My friends and I were having a discussion about why boxing is dying in the US last night. The conclusions were as follows:

1. Too many weight classes/champions. We looked on the ring magazines web site and there were about 70 world champions. Boxing needs 1 govering body, cut to 10 weight classes with 10 champions. I have no idea how this would happen.

2. Lack of great American heavyweights. Until about 2000 America dominated the heavyweight division and boxing was popular. If the Klitschkos were 2 white American brothers who took over the heavyweight division for ten years they would be hugely popular, but they are eastern Europeans so no one cares how many challengers they destroy. Their fights being overseas as opposed to LV doesn't help either

3. The best American athletes just don't go into boxing anymore.

4. Mayweather is a dbag that no one likes and he's the only marketable American star.

5. Bad decisions by judges.

Thoughts?
6. Not enough media exposure for top boxers in the sport. The UFC wasn't as popular until they released 'The Ultimate Fighter' TV show which was used as a medium to introduce their up and coming talent. The first season of 'The Ultimate Fighter' was a huge success, and the season finale had millions of viewers as well as a 1.9 rating. The UFC imitated the marketing strategy of the WWE, and that launched them into the mainstream. This will be harder to achieve for the sport of boxing because it is much more traditional, and the fact that there are multiple governing bodies that can never agree to anything, doesn't help at all.
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02-14-2013 , 10:24 PM
Get the feeling that Brook not gonna get this title shot. Hes talking like he knows that hes been screwed over and doesnt hold out much hope.

He looks in amazing shape though I'll give him that.

Im really not a fan of his, IDK what it is about him, I just cant take to him. Obv I hope he wins vs any non-Brits but I hope Khan shuts him up at some point.

Hes think as **** I know that.
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02-15-2013 , 05:33 AM
This boxing is dying thing crops up in this thread and other places from time to time, and it is just simply wrong. There is a lot wrong with the sport, but the sound of it's death knell ain't one of em. It's hugely popular on a global level. In one regard it is good to be brought up as it highlights things that need a look at in the sport, while dismissing the usual misconceptions.

Beyond the fixing, people need to realize there is an entire world outside the comforts of your own living room, block, city, and even country. It's great that there is MMA also. The two can survive fine and prosper if they manage it well. Lest not forget; one of those has been alive for over a 100 years. The other...the new kid on the block.
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02-15-2013 , 07:56 PM
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02-16-2013 , 10:33 PM
How long til the fight? Im getting sleepy, will record and watch in morning id its gonna be a while.
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02-16-2013 , 10:48 PM
Probably about an hour and a half
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02-16-2013 , 11:47 PM
is it the last fight before broner?
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02-17-2013 , 12:15 AM
Yea broner is next
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02-17-2013 , 12:49 AM
Lol what a douche it would be awesome if Rees put up a fight
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02-17-2013 , 01:12 AM
Well Rees was game probably won first two rounds but good night Irene in fourth
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02-17-2013 , 01:13 AM
lol too easy
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02-17-2013 , 01:14 AM
Rees needs to drop down in weight again. I think he'd do really really at 126 and 130.
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