But he has a new trainer! Things will be different! It was all the Freddie Roach's fault that he got knocked out by Garcia!

Khan will be the best ever.

Khan could certainly become the most entertaining fighter of the next era.
He's got the tools to beat almost anyone but also flaws big enough to get beat by anyone.

Damn .. you can be difficult at times ..

Try and look beyond the obvious sometimes..

Im not the biggest Khan fan ... check back my posts in this thread for confirmation of that.

Sure he has flaws .. many in fact, but the guy has some decent tools to work with as well, its just about ironing out the flaws as much as possible, so a new trainer with new ideas can only be a positive thing for him ... especially a trainer that seems to focus on defence more than some.

One negative aspect of Khan was his post fight speech, when he said he would have knocked out Garcia on that performance ... its this deluded aspect that needs to be removed asap imo ..and is one of the main reasons why fans dislike him so much.

lol I remember that pic. Forget what his excuse was, but it was pretty funny. Something like, "What, me at a stripper club? Being engaged and all? Naw, I was feeding homeless people."

Boxers are the most arrogant athletes in the world on the whole and it's not even really close, I don't see how khan is that much worse than anyone else

this.

i don't think khan is much different from other boxers. were his comments last night any more arrogant than how Wilder was acting after he KO'd Price?

just think about their job for a minute. it's just them by themselves and they have to go in there against another grown ass man and get hit in the face. I think a lot of the arrogance and extra bravado is just a front and things some of them do to psyche themselves up.

I don't think Khan is deluded. He's not a naturally super confident or arrogant guy, but has been coached to act as such to appeal to the american public.

Watch his interview, about half-way through someone whispers something in his ear. At the end, he goes 'oh and one more thing, viva mexico for mexican boxing fans!'. All polish, no substance describes his golden boy created persona and his boxing style.

Not his fault.

Yea, some of Khan's biggest problems I find endearing. Basically, he is dense. And harmless.

LOL @ some of the stuff posted ITT re: Khan.

I find it hard to believe that you guys are boxing fans and thought Khans performance was "no different" from before.

The very first thing that came to my mind was his foot movement. He was superb, he hardly ever got even close to the ropes, he moved constantly but always around the dead centre of the ring. In the past he would run around the edge of the ring, then at times get stuck in the corner, vs Peterson this was happening a lot. This was pretty blatantly obvious to see I thought.

He was much better at fighting in bursts and getting out of there, in the past hes kept going back time and time again and it just gives his opponent more chances to get a counter off. Will he be able to be as good mentally in a real big fight? Im not confident but you(if youre not a hater) are hoping he does, because if he does he can go a long long way.

I didnt really like again how he talked about Garcia post fight, ok sure build the fight up by saying you would easily KO him etc, but if he is truly going into that fight looking for the KO, then he hasnt fixed any of his mental flaws and will just get destroyed again. Im hoping hes just saying that in the media but behind the scenes hes just thinking about winning on points and staying out of trouble.

Khan could reduce his work-rate by about 30% and still comfortably win rounds. Thats 30% less for his opponent to counter.

Hunter is obviously a fantastic trainer, and its real easy to just blame Roach. But the thing is about Roach is they spent so much time building him up in the UK when Khan first went over there that now more people like Roach than Khan. IMO Roach isnt as great a trainer as the hype train would have you believe, yea hes good at what he does but he has big flaws. Watch back the mid round breaks at the end of tough rounds for his fighters and see how he handles them in the corner. Its borderline amateur, "are you ok?" is not what a boxer needs at this moment. He had probably the 2 best offensive fighters in the world and they both have gotten destroyed because of a lack of defence, sorry but as a trainer he has to have questions asked.

Some things Hunter has said about Khans previous regime...

-Khan has never ever done any neck strengthening work in his entire career. Virgil says the very first thing any boxer does is work on his neck, and any "chinny" boxer works exceptionally hard on his neck. Ironic that Roach said on TV when speculation was rife that Khan would leave him "my advice to Khans next trainer would be dont fight anyone that can punch".

-Its not the big KD punch that loses Khan the 2 fights he has lost, its how he reacts when he gets up, ie straight back in there for a brawl with less than 50% of his senses most likely. Virgil says Khan can afford to lose that round, lose the next, even lose 3 in a row and still win fights. Virgil says that Garcia punch, most guys wouldnt have even gotten up, let alone go on. He says if Khan had done thing right after the KD he could have gone on to win that fight.

-Khans offensive ability is 2nd to none.

-During Khan v Garcia the trainer should know that Garcia is a Philadelphia fighter, and the first thing that should come to mind is that they are famous for the left hook(this is a big generalisation IMO, but even so, specifically Garcia is known for this punch). Danny was seen to be lining up Khans feet and head to produce this shot from the first bell. Virgil says its the trainers job to spot this and inform his fighter of this. I also saw Malignaggi say the exact same thing in an interview after the fight. He said he saw Danny looking and Amir's feet when throwing punches and explained that Danny would be lining up Amir's feet in order to line up work out where his head is to get off that big counter.



Can Khan drop the ego and get himself back to the top of the sport? Everything points to no and I am not at all confident, but I for one hope he does, watching him fight is always the most superb experience, I dont want to see that end, I just want bigger and better fights.

+1 to all of this, only decent post ITT over the weekend, lol

I too have big worries for him at 147, even if he improves the power some of these guys have is going to be tough on Khan.

Got up this next morning to a text from brother in law raging about his post fight speech. I cringed a bit too. But how much of that is Khan being deluded and how much is Khan building up a big fight?


Lets be honest though, Danny Garcia is an average fighter who can bang a bit. You could probably name 10 guys that are better than him at 140/147.

Keep Khan away from big-punchers and he will be fine.

High Winky Wright guard with Klitschko jabjabjabjabstraight could work.

Khan with a shoulderroll would be fun to see.

dat tiny head should be eazy to hide you'd think.

Interesting article, RE: Network tv.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-tv-hit-boxing

For comparison's sake. PPV HBO/Showtime numbers for the year:

1. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Marco Antonio Rubio, Feb. 4, HBO, 1.9 million
2. Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson, April 28, HBO, 1.6 million
3. Chavez Jr.-Andy Lee, June 16, HBO, 1.4 million
4. Adrien Broner-Vicente Escobedo, July 21, HBO, 1.4 million
5. Miguel Cotto-Austin Trout, Dec. 1, Showtime, 1.4 million
6. Nonito Donaire-Jorge Arce, Dec. 15, HBO, 1.3 million
7. Andre Ward-Chad Dawson, Sept. 8, HBO, 1.3 million
8. Floyd Mayweather-Cotto PPV replay, May 12, HBO, 1.3 million
9. Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez PPV replay, Dec. 15, HBO, 1.3 million
10. Danny Garcia-Amir Khan, July 14, HBO, 1.3 million
11. Erik Morales-Garcia I, March 24, HBO, 1.2 million
12. Robert Guerrero-Andre Berto, Nov. 24, HBO, 1.1 million
13. Marcos Maidana-Devon Alexander, Feb. 25, HBO, 1.1 million
14. Broner-Antonio Demarco, Nov. 17, HBO, 1.1 million
15. Sergio Martinez-Matthew Macklin, March 17, HBO, 1.1 million
16. Canelo Alvarez-Josesito Lopez, Sept. 15, Showtime, 1.0 million

Wladimir Klitschko set to face Alexander Povetkin in February

Anyone give Povetkin a chance?

I don't think he will get anywhere near WK. Big jab gonna keep him at bay

He's gonna get crushed. I could see a stoppage for sure.

Good win for Wlad. If then Fury/Price winner steps up and get beaten he's definitely cleared out the division.
Deontay Wilder? lol.

Oh please...

Was that even a question?

As long as Khan keeps fighting people without the power to any damage he will continue to look great

Yeah, Wlad's jab will keep Povetkin away for the fight. Should be an easy win for WK.

As long as you keep popping ITT with silly little one liners without reading(most likely) or contributing(most certainly) youre job of trolling the boxing thread will be complete.


No contest for Wlad again, quite pathetic really.

No deep analysis really needs to be done when Khan has continually been beaten by anybody with power and continually looked great against anybody without it

What about Wlad's dodgy chin ? ... it was only a few years ago people would say the same about him .. all you have to do to beat him is land that clean shot ..

He seems to have done something to counter that because hes been unbeaten for a long while now ... fighters do and can adapt if they are willing to learn from mistakes.

Not saying this will happen with Khan ( highly unlikely in fact ) ... but maybe, just maybe the penny has dropped for him and he realises being entertaining but getting knocked out is not quite the way to go.