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Old 06-27-2012, 12:11 AM   #8276
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

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Stupid question / settle a debate between me and my friends:

what is vegas line between Ali in his prime vs. best Klitchko?
what is the most likely outcome?
say what you will about the state of heavyweight boxing, but due a lot of advancements klitchko destroys ali.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:30 PM   #8277
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Watching the fight game episode 2 right now and Duane Ford (one of the judges that voted for Bradley) is making me barf at his reasons why.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:18 PM   #8278
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Stupid question / settle a debate between me and my friends:

what is vegas line between Ali in his prime vs. best Klitchko?
what is the most likely outcome?
Ali gets crushed but we get a good lead up.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:26 PM   #8279
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

yeah, sadly

and I'm a huge Ali fan

even though in his prime he kind of went weird and seemed to be a legit mega racist/weirdo
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:29 PM   #8280
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

so is Klitchko the GOAT? (maybe not 'greatest', but who is favored vs him?)
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:37 PM   #8281
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so is Klitchko the GOAT? (maybe not 'greatest', but who is favored vs him?)
Well they're the biggest fighters with their skill level, so they are prob. the GOAT in that sense. HW are pretty impossible to rank head-to-head since there's no real limit.

Recall that HW used to start a 175 lbs, but obv those guys get stomped now.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:52 AM   #8282
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

The word Klitchko and GOAT should never ever be mentioned in the same sentence... unless you add " nowhere near " somewhere.

Their dominance has far more to do with their opposition than them being that great.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:07 AM   #8283
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

That is the rub and problem for them, because they actually are very very good but there is none to test them out very well.

fwiw I wouldn't use Klitschko and GOAT together but maybe I should, we will just never know
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:00 AM   #8284
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Which Klitschko are you guys talking about?
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:21 PM   #8285
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Which Klitschko are you guys talking about?
I'm assuming a cyborg made of Vitali's chin and Wlad's hands and I, for one, welcome our new Belorussian overlord.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:13 PM   #8286
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

bundrage tonight?
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:42 PM   #8287
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

lara is destroying this guy, and headbutting him on top of it
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:02 PM   #8288
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

my god one judge ruled it 95-94 only for lara. you kidding? stay classy, boxing.

is there a rule that at least 1 judge must be drinking, heavily?
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:06 PM   #8289
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

excited to see gary russell jr here

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Old 06-30-2012, 10:17 PM   #8290
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holy ****, GRjr is an absolute fn beast of a fighter. he's gotta be up on anyone's top lb4lb list
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:52 PM   #8291
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Bundrage absolutely destroyed Spinks tonight.

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Old 06-30-2012, 11:55 PM   #8292
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Boxing judges gonan boxing judge
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:04 AM   #8293
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

K9 vs. Canelo?
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:09 AM   #8294
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K9 vs. Canelo?
K9 didnt look good. Spinks just looked reaaaaalllly bad
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:37 AM   #8295
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

I just watched the Pac-Bradley fight for the fourth time without commentary trying to judge it myself and here is what I got: (Pac-B)

1- Could go either way but I went with Bradley because he was more active and neither seemed to do anything to grand (0-1)

2- Same situation, I gave it to Bradley again because I honestly felt Bradley did a little bit more (0-2)

3- Obviously Pac (1-2)

4- Obviously Pac again, this is the round one of the older judges said that Pac should have finished the fight but to me it seemed pretty standard but Pac still crushed Bradley (2-2)

5- Pac landed more punches and they were harder

6- Pac

7-Pac

8- Bradley, I thought this round could go either way and I gave it to Bradley with the commentary off

9- Pac

10- Bradley

11- Pac

12- Pac (this one could possibly go either way)

Honestly I was surprised I gave the first two rounds to Bradley and thought maybe at first I had scored it wrong but as it went on Manny dominated and I still have no idea how this one got scored so wrong. I really really hope Pac doesn't fight Tim again and goes onto something better (imo not Marquez 4 even though I like JMM). I have no idea where pac will go from here though and my prediction is it ends up as a bob arum home run rematch. (**** Bob Arum)
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:16 PM   #8296
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excited to see gary russell jr here
First time I've seen him. Exciting to watch. Amazing fast hands with power and a short reach so he gets in close to fight. They said he wants Juan Manuel Lopez next. Looking forward to seeing him fight again.


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Old 07-01-2012, 07:33 PM   #8297
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

watched the Lopez/Salido 2 fight again the other day, what a great fight

never seen Gary Russel Jr. fight i'll have to look to see if any of his stuff is on youtube...any recommendations or has he been beating everyone bad? I don't even know what weight division he is in lol..looks like he hasn't fought anyone decent at all

man rafael is outraged at the spinks scorecards. Isn't Lara the one who got screwed vs Williams?

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Old 07-04-2012, 07:46 PM   #8298
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Apparently it will be Canelo vs Ricardo Mayorga in September. It's a mis-match but at least it will be a fun fight while it lasts.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:43 PM   #8299
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

rut roh, revenge match between Bute and Froch in March 2013 in Montreal.
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:17 AM   #8300
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Watched the (very quick) fortuna match on FNF tonight...hasn't really fought anyone good but his last two knockouts have been pretty impressive (including tonights within two rounds), he has a chance to be a legitimate featherweight contender imo
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