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Old 06-10-2012, 03:25 AM   #8101
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Both robberies though. If one decision is worse than the other doesn't matter much if both of them are dead wrong.

Wouldn't be surprised if this is Bob Arums work. He's running out of "in house" fights for Pac and this sets up massive business for a trilogy. I seriously think he has more to gain from Bradley winning than Pac winning.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:37 AM   #8102
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The problem there is the the Manny/JMM III was scored correctly 7-5 Manny.

This fight was scored correctly or near-correctly by everyone but the judges 11-1/10-2 Manny

Those scorecards are criminal.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:41 AM   #8103
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

no Marquez was not a robbery its debatable this was just bad
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:41 AM   #8104
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The problem there is the the Manny/JMM III was scored correctly 7-5 Manny.
I highly disagree

But nah.. hard to imagine Arum not being involved. These same judges are those that in the past always helped his fighters get a robbery decision in vegas.

This is probably what makes him the most $$$ in the next few years.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:44 AM   #8105
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

crazy how they continue to use the same judges. One would think they would be fired but obv in arums pocket.
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:46 AM   #8106
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

"This is a death knell for boxing, and I'm going to make a ton of money on the rematch," Arum said.

yeah lol. Probably Arum involvement.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:26 AM   #8107
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Looking back, the best part of all this was us laughing at the segment where they analyzed the judges while Pac was stretching, talking about the Rios fiasco and how they could potentially score the fight. Jokes on us HBO guys knew it was a key segment.
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:56 AM   #8108
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1 judge 120-108 2 judges 119-109 imo
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after 12 rounds,

Awesome sequence

I do feel bad for the guy who lost his entire net worth betting 1/200 tho
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:29 AM   #8109
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^lmao
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:08 AM   #8110
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Looking back, the best part of all this was us laughing at the segment where they analyzed the judges while Pac was stretching, talking about the Rios fiasco and how they could potentially score the fight. Jokes on us HBO guys knew it was a key segment.
Cept the woman judge they disliked ruled for manny.

This was boxings fu to manny for dodging may imo
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:14 AM   #8111
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

I know it won't happen but I feel this should be the last boxing match we'll ever book @LVSuperBook. #ridiculous -- Jay Kornegay (@JayKornegay)
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:41 AM   #8112
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boxings been a joke for ages this just highlights the fact. MMA forever screw boxing
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:05 AM   #8113
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:32 AM   #8114
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

I have never been so shocked at a result in my life. I think Helnius-Chisora was worse and maybe a few others but that was expected because Helenius was in his home town. If the roles were reversed and Bradley clearly deserved to win and Pacquiao got the decision it would be no shock at all but this is just bizarre. Were the judges worried about being seen as biased towards Pacquiao like the judges in the JMM fight?
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:36 AM   #8115
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Cmon guys , its boxing politics ... its been going on for years.

Arum promotes both fighters ...

Pacman would never drop a decision in any fight promoted by Arum ... unless his opponent belongs to Arum too

What happens now, there will be a huge uproar .. a demand for a rematch and Arum lines his pockets as well as his two fighters .

Bottom line is ... Arum does not want the Pacman anywhere near Mayweather.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:44 AM   #8116
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Will there really be a big demand for a rematch? Not from me, I don't think it's needed, Pacquiao won easily and it wasn't a great fight. It's not like the old days when being a champion actually meant a great deal.

I want to see a rematch of that Arce fight though.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:49 AM   #8117
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Just woke up and immediately checked espn to make sure I wasn't dreaming last night...wish I was. I cannot believe that just happened. I am so appalled.. I thought maybe hat stuff could happen for Manny but against Manny???? No wayyyyy. Lol boxing what a joke
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:02 AM   #8118
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Both robberies though. If one decision is worse than the other doesn't matter much if both of them are dead wrong.
Are you serious?

Boxing is scored by 3 men, their perception of what happens is the ring is key.

1 close fight going the wrong way is debatable. I saw that fight and felt Manny did enough and saw it as a split decision either way. I also watched Khan v Peterson and felt like it was a close fight but Khan did enough to win.

Both decisions are questionable but you can at least see why 3 HUMAN BEINGS would get a close decision wrong.(although the peterson fight was a complete fix, #lolhometown, #interferrancewithscorecards, #drugabuse)

When the fight is clearly not even close, then you get a decision like this it is way way worse. Do you honesty not see why?

Manny won a couple of those middle rounds 10-8 in some peoples view. Bradley was in survival mode, every punch rocking him to his boots.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:05 AM   #8119
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Bottom line is ... Arum does not want the Pacman anywhere near Mayweather.
The irony here is the only thing to come out of last night is that Manny now will be offered a lot less when they sit at the table with Mayweather, why would Arum want that?

inb4 Floyd comes out this week saying he scored it 117-113 Bradley and Manny is nowhere near his level, then retire undefeated and claim for all time that he was GOAT. #dodgingbullets
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:09 AM   #8120
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I don't think any round was close to a 10-8 but I don't understand how anyone could possibly give Bradley more than like four rounds ( I gave him one). Comparing this match to the jmm match is beyond absurd
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:12 AM   #8121
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

How does last night affect canelo if at all?
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:14 AM   #8122
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I don't think any round was close to a 10-8
I thought 1 round was close to it, but yea Manny didnt quite do enough IMO for the T-8, it was close tho.

Just that I read a bunch of score cards from various boxing pundits/journalists this morning just trying to see if I dreamt it last night and a couple gave a T-8 round to Manny.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:17 AM   #8123
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Some people feel that Marquez got robbed against Pacquiao - Arum gets blamed.
Pacquiao gets robbed against Bradley - Arum gets blamed.

lol, poor old man getting abused.

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It doesn't.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:18 AM   #8124
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if this was fixed, and it was going to be fixed from the get-go, it makes you wonder at what point they would back out of the fix. i mean if manny knocks him down in 2 consecutive rounds in the middle of the fight surely this can't happen. or if manny finishes the last 4 strong so you can't make a case whatsoever for giving bradley more than 1 or 2.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:26 AM   #8125
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Wtf has boxing come to
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