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Old 05-18-2012, 08:24 PM   #7701
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

So Peterson and Berto were the ones that requested the random testing, but decide to use steroids/PEDs anyways... standard.
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:34 PM   #7702
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Anyone watching FNF?
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:22 AM   #7703
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Just got around to watching PBFs last fight and man did he look impressive. I feel like he is -150 or so in my mind vs Manny.
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Old 05-19-2012, 04:57 AM   #7704
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Ortiz vs. Khan would be cool.
No way on earth Khan steps up to 147 to fight Ortiz ...

Can will do what he always does and pick a washed up named fighter to pad his record ..

Step forward Eric Morales ...
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:41 AM   #7705
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Just got around to watching PBFs last fight and man did he look impressive. I feel like he is -150 or so in my mind vs Manny.
That's about the vegas line
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:09 AM   #7706
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Those lines will move considerably once the fight is actually on.
No sharp money would go in and get tied up when the fight is not happening probably ever.

Ortiz and Khan wont fight, but thats because they're booked for showtime and hbo respectively.
If not for that i don't see why Khan would turn down that fight. He did fight Maidana eventually and baited Bradley to sign to fight him.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:11 AM   #7707
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Just got around to watching PBFs last fight and man did he look impressive. I feel like he is -150 or so in my mind vs Manny.
This was his least impressive performance since him comeback imo.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:05 AM   #7708
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Sharp money would probably bet $may
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:56 AM   #7709
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Those lines will move considerably once the fight is actually on.
No sharp money would go in and get tied up when the fight is not happening probably ever.

Ortiz and Khan wont fight, but thats because they're booked for showtime and hbo respectively.
If not for that i don't see why Khan would turn down that fight. He did fight Maidana eventually and baited Bradley to sign to fight him.
Terrible fight for Khan. He will not be able to handle Ortiz's power, especially at 147 where Ortiz weighs in at 164 on fight night. Ortiz would knock him the f out. Khan needs a couple of fights at welterweight before taking on Ortiz. I'd like to see him fight Brook soon. As for his next opponent, Garcia would be my guess.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:00 AM   #7710
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

David Price fighting tonight, expect him to win easily enough, dunno how good he really is but he is one to keep an eye on. Heavyweight division could use a big KO puncher.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:02 AM   #7711
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

I think we expect too much out of Ortiz as a welterweight. Berto probably wasn't the fighter he was touted as. In my opinion Collazo gave him more than he could handle.

I agree though that Ortiz is most likely the favorite at 147. If he does have something, it's power.

Khan does carry a punch too though, and is blistering fast. If he connects Ortiz may not fight back (or maybe he will.. Not sure what to make of his fighting spirit. Great against Berto. Not so great against Maidana)

Not happening any time soon though. Brook vs. Khan would be sweet, but would they put Brook in there with Khan? Seems like they want to build a good draw in Brook.

As long as it's not Malignaggi I'm fine with most opponents Khan could get. As long as they're somewhat legitimate.

For Ortiz i would love to see Maidana rematch. I heard Maidana is unavailable right now though, so it wont happen next.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:09 AM   #7712
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Has Malignaggi seriously been considered as a potential opponent for Khan? It would be hilarious if they made that fight, are they hoping everyone has forgotten about the first one?
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:11 AM   #7713
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

I think Malignaggi is everyones target now that he's a "champ" (titlist).
If you pick up a belt and have a "name" you're probably in the hunt for Pac/Mayweather when their options become limited.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:35 AM   #7714
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Ortiz and Khan wont fight, but thats because they're booked for showtime and hbo respectively.
Both are promoted by golden boy so should be a easy fight to make.

Wrong fight for Khan at 147, he will try and trade with Ortiz becuase Khan thinks hes some kind of macho fighter who can box .

The truth sadly is ... his defence is terrible and being far too easy to hit would suit Ortiz down to the ground ..

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Brook vs. Khan would be sweet, but would they put Brook in there with Khan?
Brook would have this fight this year imo .. i think you will see a more destructive Brook when he faces Carson and should then be in line for a title shot against Jones / Bailey ??

If Brook gets through those two fights then i would fully expect a Brook v Khan showdown.
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:58 PM   #7715
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Spoiler:


Kessler vs. Green in spoiler as I'm sure some are watching Price Sexton.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:00 PM   #7716
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

OMG. Kessler vs Green...
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:32 AM   #7717
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Price is a monster

Commentators saying he would beat Haye
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:48 AM   #7718
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Just saw Kessler v Green, Sick
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Old 05-20-2012, 04:52 AM   #7719
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Who next for Price ?

Audley Harrison or Matt Skelton perhaps ?
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:15 AM   #7720
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Not sure, but he's made beating decent British domestic fighters look so easy it would take someone better than them to get past a few rounds it seems. I can't get over feeling that he may be a little chinny, but he is looking impressive for now.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:29 AM   #7721
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

I think Price could beat lots of guys. But it's easy to look good against mediocre fighters if you're borderline top10 quality.

Price vs. Fury would be great. Or maybe see him against Wach, Helenius, Mitchell or guys like that.

I think a fight with Arreola could be crazy but i think they're saving him for a fight with Wlad? And Mitchell is probably not a realistic foe either.

Loads of power, marketable personality (in the uk at least) and very fast for his size. Comes with varied attacks.
Really like the guy. Can look a bit clumsy but it's not easy to look smooth at his height/size.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:43 AM   #7722
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Hopefully Wlad doesn't manage to convince Price to fight yet. That's the trouble with the hw division, it's so bad that a lot of prospects end up fighting one of the Klits before they are ready. I see Wlad is already talking about fighting Seth Mitchell, the guy who was out on his feet against Chazz Witherspoon ffs.

Price knocks out Fury, Fury and his promoter know this which is why they ducked him.

The Kessler ko was the best I've seen so far this year. They were talking of Cleverly vs Kessler lol, no way is that gonna happen, Kessler would brutalise him.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:45 AM   #7723
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Yeah, the fact that the HW division sucks could affect Price as they might rush him into a fight with the brothers. Clearly isn't ready but I really like him as a fighter, just wish there were more guys out there so he could test himself before sharing a ring with either brother.
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:51 AM   #7724
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Oh wow, what a shot

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Old 05-22-2012, 08:20 PM   #7725
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Alvarez to fight Paul Williams in September. Sort of interesting if Williams can show the skills he did a couple years ago but he tor that gift decision last time if I recall correctly. I expect Alvarez to roll but he didn't look great vs mosley
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