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Originally Posted by NoJacket
It may well be that, yes. I'm sure you agree with me that Floyd would not accept the fight if the roles were reversed and Arum set the date.
If roles were reversed and Floyd (his team, whatever) blamed his inability to sign on an exaggerated injury and/or the need to build stadiums while still being available to fight other men on the same date i would disown him. I would never root for him ever again.
I can see the "pride" theory as in "hes not the boss of me" but it's not the angle that Bob Arum or Pacquiao is spinning so therefore i take it as a non-issue at the moment.
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As we have said before neither man needs the fight. Currently they are making 20-30 million for fighting anybody. People are getting carried away when they talk about how much money they would get for fighting each other, they seem to forget that they will be splitting 50-50 rather than getting the 80-90% they would usually get.
Both need it in terms of legacy and both would probably make twice as much if not more than they would fighting anyone else.
Both can make good (ridiculously good) money without each other obviously.
The sport DOES need it.
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Originally Posted by trippy
What Floyd should do is go into negotiations next week with Bob Arum. Ellerbe says they'll make an announcement on the May 5th fight next week. If they decide to fight Alvarez or Guerrero without trying to negotiate with Arum then that tells me they don't want the fight. If Arum gives a BS excuse, then Floyd will be free of blame.
I agree that they should do everything to make the fight and that includes sitting down with Arum next week.
But Floyd is scheduled for may fifth, hes got a contractual obligation for that date which is what his postponement of imprisonment was based upon.
Do i think they could get that changed? Probably, but i wouldn't know. I know nothing about the legal system in the US.
Bob Arum has already said publicly multiple times that may fifth is impossible citing injuries, stadiums etc as the excuse. How could there be a negotiation with that mindset going in? How do you negotiate the impossible?
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Floyd says he's the boss and only hands out offers. Well, lets see him deliver an offer to Bob Arum and Pacquiao and see what they're response is.
Didn't he do just that?
According to Bob it all hinges on Pacquiaos injury (the 5 month cut) and building temp stadiums.
I''m sure I'm coming off as a floyd apologist in this thread. That is not my intent even though i'm obviously a fan of his abilities in the ring and oftentimes root for him. I may have a bias.
I do feel Floyd has his share of the blame historically for this fight not happening. I understood the "floyd is a ducking ******" comments earlier in this thread. I agreed with some of the harsh critique.
As it stands right now, i feel it is up to Pacquiao to get this done or to call Floyds "bluff".