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Old 01-06-2012, 09:07 AM   #6651
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

yeah if it's true it needs to be dealt with, but it's all clouded by Khan and Roach attempt to spin it like they got robbed.

Khan lost even if he would have been robbed had he legitimately deserved a victory.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:10 AM   #6652
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

so he could never win the fight unless he KO'd Peterson = a farce.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:17 AM   #6653
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

yeah so that should be the focus not the constant crying about how he got robbed.

boxing is shady, and I'm all for cleaning it up. But Khan is butthurt because he lost and it seems like the integrity of the sport is just some minor point for him.

Let me clarify my stance.
I do think theres a good possibility that corruption was in place for this fight. I do feel that is despicable and needs to be dealt with.
At the same time i do think Khan lost the fight on fair grounds. I have little tolerance for his bitching about that.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:32 AM   #6654
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not a big fan of sour grapes, tho it is justified for Khan.

we have to remember he is trying to protect his future earning potential and is probably being advised to take this as far as it can go.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:04 AM   #6655
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

saw this video linked in EDF, and yeah, it's shady as hell. Peterson was the better man in there, but this is some serious bull**** and i hope it's dealt with accordingly.


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Old 01-06-2012, 12:25 PM   #6656
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

the fact that him & roach are trying to say he got screwed or robbed or w/e is killing any sympathy he might've had from me. probably not even in the 100 most controversial decisions of the year.

i'll be interested to know who the dude in the blue shirt was but whatever happens I hope the decision doesn't get reversed or declared void. khan lost the fight.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:22 PM   #6657
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khan lost the fight.
According to the judges score cards -that is the issue that is being addressed and we will have to wait and see. It was a very close fight so he has every right to "whine".
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:25 PM   #6658
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no

if the judges scorecards bore no relation to reality then he would have the right to ***** and moan. that's not what happened.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:27 PM   #6659
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mystery man works for IBF but was not assigned to the Khan fight and had no place beside the judge.

Sky showed a scorecard that had been altered.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:28 PM   #6660
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whatever happens, mystery man is ****ed lol
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:29 PM   #6661
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

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@ChrisMannixSI as @marcelluswiley points out, Arum said May 5th was a possibility if Marquez was opponent. #ducking
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:44 PM   #6662
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if the judges scorecards bore no relation to reality then he would have the right to ***** and moan. that's not what happened.
Nonsense.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:58 PM   #6663
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dont think i've ever come across a khan fanboi before
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:01 PM   #6664
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

I've become a Khan fan, tho probably not a fanboy.
Mainly due to him punking Bradley something fierce, but he needs to stfu about being robbed.

I do feel it's legit to bring this up tho, about the supershady guy caught on camera interfering with the judges. It's just too bad Khan is such a crybaby and try to spin it like he didn't really lose, which he clearly did.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:20 PM   #6665
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dont think i've ever come across a khan fanboi before
Huh? I'm just stating the obvious that's all. Close fight, dodgy dealings, he has the right to ***** or moan or whatever you want to call it.

Yeh, I like Khan, don't mean I think he's God. If he loses that fight that's fine, go with the judges. Fact is, it was close and there was something very dodgy going on. Care to explain how that makes me a fanboi? (I am of course assuming you are referring to my post, so if you now say you weren't, I take it all back).
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:25 PM   #6666
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Any chance the altered scorecard had something to do with Khan been deducted points that same round?

Maybe the judge just made a **** up and then corrected himself?
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:27 PM   #6667
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Don't see why some random pimp-lookalike should be there to clarify such mistakes and then pass scorecards down the row.

This looks 100% corrupted, but I'll await some reasonable explanation before i pull out the pitchfork.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:28 PM   #6668
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Any chance the altered scorecard had something to do with Khan been deducted points that same round?

Maybe the judge just made a **** up and then corrected himself?
This is most likely what happened with the scorecard - he put he 10 and the 8 in the wrong columns. Still gotta give Khan the right to complain, given this and the "mysterious fella".
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:34 PM   #6669
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

you're right, it was a very close fight.

most fighters seem to take decisions in stride. as far as i know, JMM didn't complain to any boxing boards after his controversial points loss to pac.

otoh golden boy khan runs to the authorities to try to get a really close decision overturned. its just a ***** move. train harder and you might not have to cry about points decision losses when you're a massive favourite.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:38 PM   #6670
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Marquez was all over media complaining about his loss. He had some legitimacy behind it tho as most people scored it for him.
No idea if he tried to get it overturned, i doubt it as it would never happen.

Khan needs to realize he lost and work harder, or else he will never be close to the fighter he could be.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:42 PM   #6671
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Floyd Mayweather Jr was supposed to report today for a 90 (well 87) day jail sentence in a Las Vegas detention center. Instead, he has until June, as a judge has granted his legal team's requested of a five-month delay on serving the sentence, which will allow Mayweather to keep his May 5 fight date on HBO pay-per-view.

And guess what? Bob Arum says Manny Pacquiao won't fight Floyd on May 5.

"I don't think it has any impact," Arum said, upon learning of the ruling. "No impact at all. Manny isn't going to be ready to fight until summertime."



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Preliminary discussions had the record-breaking Filipino southpaw rumored to fight on June 7, with a quartet of options that didn’t include Mayweather on the premise of his beginning a 90-day prison sentence on Friday.

... "Right now, we have no idea if he can go in May," Arum explained. "He’s supposed to have his cut examined. I’m going over to speak with him regarding his future, and we can go from there."

Mayweather will begin his sentence on June 1. Pacquiao supposedly hasn't been medically cleared due to some cuts suffered on November 12 against Juan Manuel Marquez. (For the record, June 7 is a Thursday, so I'm guessing June 9 is actually more likely.)

I hate to say this and open up the entire boring discussion for the nine millionth time, but if you're someone who thinks there's a good and an evil in this whole scenario, and Mayweather is the evil preventing the fight from happening, well...

It's kind of hard to think that Bob Arum wants this fight to happen. "Maybe later, maybe later, maybe later." He's said the fight could happen in November, or five months after Pacquiao is expected to be in the ring next. But that leaves plenty of time to find excuses again.

And I'm not saying Mayweather is the good witch, either. But we're at a point where you get this great big opening, with Floyd's sentence delayed, and now Manny won't be ready until a few days after Floyd has to report to jail?

It's always something, isn't it? And obviously you can play the card of, "Oh, come on, this is BOXING! and these things happen! Cuts are tough! You don't even know because you are not a boxer, you jerk!" And fine, great, I'm a jerk, but I'm having some difficulty here. How about you?
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/1/6/...ob-arum-quotes

Once again i fully agree with Scott Christ.
Funny how the tables have turned; this time last year (or even a few months ago) everyone was convinced Floyd was ducking while Pac wanted the fight.
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:42 PM   #6672
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

For the "sport" to have credibility, decisions should be appealed when they are dodgy. Fair play to Khan, who is pretty tough by all accounts and not a whiner or a moaner "run [ning] to the authorities".
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Old 01-06-2012, 05:43 PM   #6673
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Khan needs to realize he lost and work harder, or else he will never be close to the fighter he could be.
Yet at the same time I agree with this.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:50 PM   #6674
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

It's gotten to the point where the Floyd/Pac fight has to happen. Neither Floyd or Arum can duck the fight this time around. Unless Arum has medical records stating that Manny cannot fight on May 5th because of his eye (extremely unlikely), then he has no choice but to put his cash cow in with Floyd. And Floyd has no excuse whatsoever now that Manny has agreed to the OSDT. I think Manny even said he'll take a smaller purse (..don't quote me on that).
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:58 PM   #6675
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Floyd came out and said he wanted to fight Pac on may 5th. He said "you agreed to the tests so lets fight", and now he postponed his visit to jail so that he could fight in may.
I don't know what more he can do honestly. If he doesn't want the fight hes doing a good job fooling me.

Manny needs to make a decision here. It's not OK that he can hide behind Bob Arum and not take the blame that he deserves. Bob Arum is his employee, so if the fight does not happen because of him it falls on Mannys shoulders.
Lets not forget; Bob only tells Manny about the options available and Manny then decides on who to fight. This has always been the case.
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