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Old 09-18-2011, 06:39 PM   #5476
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Not even a boxing fan but saw this live last night cause I knew something epic was going to happen.

Would love to Pac vs Floyd after watching this.
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:42 PM   #5477
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Floyd Mayweather taking his ******ness to a whole new level with this quote:

"I don't need Pacquiao. Where was Pacquiao in 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 when I was dominating the game?"
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Old 09-18-2011, 07:55 PM   #5478
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the shot from pbf when ortiz wasnt paying attention was mayweathers most exciting fight in awhile not gonna lie. fell asleep during the mosley fight.

muhammed ali was spazzing at home when he realized everything he built has crumbled.
well, he was certainly spazzing.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:00 PM   #5479
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In a way, this might be the best possible result. Mayweather needs Pacquiao now more than ever, imo.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:05 PM   #5480
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Think Mayweather will be fine. The sport needs Floyd/Pac.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:28 PM   #5481
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please god fight Pacman
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:32 PM   #5482
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Merchant gives off that hobo with a shotgun vibe, Mayweather should be careful next time.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:44 PM   #5483
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He can throw around as much money as he wants but he literally has no right to claim GOATness with the way he's compiled the 2nd half of his resume. And if he really cares about that (which is debatable, I know), he really needs Pacquiao.

Since the win over Hatton, Money's last 3 cards have been absolutely disgraceful. And I'll be the first to admit that Pacquiao's last 3 cards since he beat Cotto were very weak as well, but it's pretty obvious to me that one camp wants the fight and the other camp isn't all that interested. That's fine, but then don't parade around like a jackass.

So many people to blame but I'm sick of Floyd's circus more than ever.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:46 PM   #5484
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ortiz is far from a scrub
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:49 PM   #5485
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Ortiz at 24 is far from a real challenge for a fighter of Mayweather's class. This was a painfully predictable result and it was only expedited by stupidity.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:53 PM   #5486
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I thought he was pretty high on the list of contenders against mayweather after he beat berto.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:58 PM   #5487
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I can't hold it in anymore. Pretty Boy's said repeatedly that a good PPV fight takes at least 6 months to promote properly, so it's time we started discussing all things Pacman-PBF itt right now.

The Latest Updates:

- This link was posted in the Pacman-Cotto thread; apparently Ross Greenburg, president of HBO Sports, has already been contacted by Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who told him that Floyd has given them the green light to begin negotiations for a Pacquiao fight. This is just one link of many...numerous credible boxing print reporters and bloggers are also indicating Schaefer and Arum were expected to have been in contact as recently as today.

- Early reports indicate Pac-Cotto attracted approx. 1.5 million PPV buys, which means an estimated gross of $82 million. This is significant because Mayweather's camp said unless Pac-Cotto could surpass the Mayweather-Marquez PPV buys from earlier this year (~1 million), they would refuse to sign on for a fight unless the PPV share was heavily in favour of Floyd - thought to be around the 65-35 range. Not only is Pac-Cotto gonna surpass Mayweather-Marquez, it's gonna blow it out of the water. All signs point to an even chop making the most sense, imo.

- From the "LOL WUT" files, the Yankees have apparently expressed interest in hosting a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at Yankee Stadium in the spring of 2010, rekindling the spirits of great world title fights of the past fought in the old Bronx shrine. Also, according to Arum, Yankee Stadium took out a full-page ad from the Pac-Cotto fight program that proclaimed "Yankee Stadium, Your Home For Boxing 2010." Haters gonna hate.

The Fighters:

Manny Pacquiao



WBO Welterweight World Champion
IBO and Ring Magazine Light Welterweight Champion
Ring Magazine #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world


Hometown: General Santos City, Philippines
Nickname: Pac-Man
Age: 30
Record: 50-3-2, 38 KO's
Height: 5 ft. 6.5 in.
Stance: Southpaw
Current division: Welterweight (fought at catchweight of 145 lbs. vs. Cotto)
Notable wins: Miguel Cotto, Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez, Erik Morales (twice), Marco Antonio Barrera (twice)


Floyd Mayweather Jr.



Former WBC Welterweight World Champion (vacated upon retirement)
Former Ring Magazine #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world, currently #2


Hometown: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Nicknames: Money, Pretty Boy
Age: 32
Record: 40-0, 25 KO's
Height: 5 ft. 7.5 in.
Stance: Orthodox
Current division: Welterweight (147 lbs.)
Notable wins: Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya, Zab Judah, Arturo Gatti, Jose Luis Castillo (twice), Diego Corrales

What makes this matchup so intriguing:

As the saying goes, styles make fights, and this axiom holds true when describing a potential Pacquiao-Mayweather fight. Pacquiao is arguably the most prodigious offensive talent in the modern era. Without a doubt, he's the fastest puncher on the planet today, but what might be more astounding is the fact that he's retained the same magnitude of power during his progression through 7 weight classes. When you combine blinding speed with the ability to inflict serious punishment, you get the most dangerous puncher in the world. His footwork, agility and technical skills are all world-class as well, allowing Manny to attack from a multitude of awkward angles; this often confuses his opponents and allows him to score seemingly at will. None of Pacquiao's last 4 fights have gone the distance. Although once regarded as a flat-out brawler, Pacquiao has shown a much more methodical approach to attacking his opponents over the last 2 years, resulting in some eye-opening victories over De La Hoya and Cotto most recently. Manny's stamina is truly remarkable; his engine simply doesn't stop.

However, Pacquiao has never fought a fighter as proficient defensively as Mayweather. Plenty of boxing fans rate Mayweather as the greatest defensive fighter of our era, and with good reason - in 40 professional fights, Mayweather has only been knocked down once, by Carlos Hernandez over 8 years ago. The shoulder roll technique taught to him by his father and uncle enables Mayweather to dodge punches from all angles and in all situations, by twisting away from punches in a rhythmic manner and presenting much smaller target areas compared to his contemporaries. While Floyd isn't necessarily known as a knockout threat - only 25 career KO's, 4 decisions in his last 5 fights - he does boast knockout victories over the late hard-nosed Arturo Gatti and formerly undefeated Ricky Hatton, a performance which earned Mayweather high praise and accolades from the boxing media for his systematic destruction of a highly-regarded challenger.

So the question remains: who breaks first? Will Pacquiao be able to solve Mayweather's seemingly impregnable defence? Will Mayweather be able to withstand the Pacquiao offensive tsunami? Something has to give...and in the process, fight fans might be treated to one of the greatest bouts in history.

Why this fight is so important for boxing:

Sadly, the reputation of boxing has been so tarnished over the last two decades, many fight fans feel they've been completely alienated by the sport. Due in large part to the absence of big fights, the questionable legitimacy of championships and the embarrassing greed of short-sighted promoters, mainstream interest in the sport has waned to a large degree. With the advent of big ticket MMA, boxing is fighting for its life like never before.

Hardcore boxing fans and casual sports fans alike deserve to see the very best fight each other. It's the only way boxing can remain relevant in a day and age where sports media is oversaturated with coverage of every sport imaginable. After years of wandering in the proverbial woods, boxing is finally taking steps towards regaining legitimacy - events like the Super Six World Boxing Classic tournament certainly help. However, even though the likes of Mikkel Kessler and Andre Ward make for fantastic entertainment, boxing needs a string of blockbuster fights to jumpstart the sport and reinvigorate mainstream interest once again. Pacquiao-Mayweather can provide the required spark.

A fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather, easily the sport's two biggest attractions, will draw the attention of the mainstream sports media unlike arguably any other fight of the last three decades. For boxing aficionados, this is easily the most significant fight since Pernell Whitaker fought Julio Cesar Chavez for the right to claim the undisputed pound-for-pound title in 1994...but more importantly, in terms of attracting worldwide mass interest, this might be the biggest fight since Muhammad Ali fought Joe Frazier in the Thrilla in Manila in 1975. Ironically, the final chapter of the Ali-Frazier trilogy took place in the Philippines, so it's only appropriate that 35 years later, a Filipino icon will make up one half of the most important and significant bout of his era.

One of the reasons boxing has become less relevant to the sports public is because of the decreasing American content at the highest levels of the sport. While this has made boxing more intriguing for non-Americans worldwide, the fact remains that the biggest title fights still take place in the United States, catering to boxing's biggest and most profitable market of over 300 million consumers. Therein lies another subplot all to itself: this fight would pit the biggest (and arguably last) American superstar left in the boxing against the sport's biggest draw in the Pacific Rim, which is a gigantic market itself - the Philippines is the 12th most populous country in the world with a population of 92 million, which doesn't include the estimated 11 million immigrant Filipinos living overseas. Unlike many predecessors, this fight has true worldwide appeal. The entire globe will be tuned in. This is the kind of fight that can rejuvenate an entire sport and inspire the next generation of superstars to lace up a pair of gloves.


***Disclaimer***

I understand that nothing's been signed yet and there's a whole lot of messy negotiations ahead. I also understand this fight might not even happen. It's not my intention to jinx it or anything like that. I just think this fight has to potential to be an era-defining moment for our generation of sports fans...therefore, I wanna start talking about it as soon as possible. Mayweather-Marquez was a small obstacle, Pacquiao-Cotto was a huge one, but now there's nothing standing in the way of these two little giants colliding (sorry Sugar Shane). This fight needs to happen. For so many reasons. I, for one, cannot wait. This is the real fight to save boxing, and I really hope all parties involved in the negotiations understand what kind of lasting effect - both economic and otherwise - this fight will have on the sport.

Gentlemen, discuss.

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Old 09-18-2011, 08:59 PM   #5488
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He can throw around as much money as he wants but he literally has no right to claim GOATness with the way he's compiled the 2nd half of his resume. And if he really cares about that (which is debatable, I know), he really needs Pacquiao.

He's fighting the same ****ing guys Pacquiao has been fighting, nearly identical. What else is he supposed to do?

Manny:


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Why aren't you bitching about who Manny has fought since 2008????? Oh that's right, because you're incredibly biased like every other Mayweather hater.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:04 PM   #5489
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He's fighting the same ****ing guys Pacquiao has been fighting, nearly identical. What else is he supposed to do?

Manny:


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Why aren't you bitching about who Manny has fought since 2008????? Oh that's right, because you're incredibly biased like every other Mayweather hater.
the word isn't biased, it's racist
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:06 PM   #5490
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Why aren't you bitching about who Manny has fought since 2008????? Oh that's right, because you're incredibly biased like every other Mayweather hater.
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And I'll be the first to admit that Pacquiao's last 3 cards since he beat Cotto were very weak as well...
Reading comprehension tho
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:08 PM   #5491
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Reading comprehension tho
It's a bull**** complaint regardless. People will find any reason to viciously hate on Floyd let they all love Manny so they'll only barely mention it when it's the same ****ing thing.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:19 PM   #5492
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

morales, jmm and barrera is what pac has built his resume on.

Only the casual-fan put too much value into his 140+ run. It's basically one fight that sticks out from that run, Cotto. Rest is just meh.

With that said, morales, jmm and barrera is each one greater than any win on floyds resume. If we pick out floyds 3 greatest wins it's probably Corrales, Hernandez and Castillo. I could be talked into replacing hernandez with either Hatton or Oscar, but Im not sure.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:20 PM   #5493
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I'll admit I didn't watch it live, but from everything I've seen, Floyd's win against Hatton was pretty damn impressive.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:26 PM   #5494
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Re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Sports ranked by riggedness:

1. Boxing
2. NBA Basketball
3. College Football

Sports ranked by Minutes of Hype vs Minutes of Excitement:

1. Boxing
1a. MMA
2. NFL Football.
3. NASCAR

Sports ranked by referee bias affecting the game:

1. MLB Baseball
2. NBA Basketball
3. Boxing

Why does anyone watch this **** still?


edit: I'm still pissed about the $60 I wasted watching De La Hoya vs Mayweather.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:26 PM   #5495
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I think Pac's victory over DLH was one of his best, not partuclarly because of what he did in the ring (although it was an awesome performance, DLH was shot) but for even having the balls to take the fight in the first place. A lot of people have probably forgotten but pretty much all boxing writers were calling it a mis-match in DLH's favour.

I also think Mayweather doesn't get enough credit for the Mosley win as he should for similar reasons (although obviously not on the same level)
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:29 PM   #5496
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Also fwiw, Floyds claim to GOAT is of course pure nonsense. Hes not even close.

At the same time, since people don't make the distinction, and usually when they speak of floyd pac is immediately brought up, Pac is nowhere close to the goat either.

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Ortiz at 24 is far from a real challenge for a fighter of Mayweather's class. This was a painfully predictable result and it was only expedited by stupidity.
Ortiz is the 3rd best welterweight, unless you wan't to believe in the mike jones hype.

If that makes him far from a real challenge, so be it. Hes more credible of an opponent at 140+ than anyone his nemesis has fought except for Cotto.

I was fine with the matchup. I would be equally fine if Bradley moves up to 147 and beats a top5 guy and then fights pac. That would be a good fight.

I think we all wants to see Pac vs. Floyd next, but i would bet against that happening.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:31 PM   #5497
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Mayweather never fought Cotto. Mayweather turned down $8 mil to fight Margarito and instead fought Carlos Baldomir.

And bitchface, you're also completely disregarding the chronological order of how this saga has transpired, but no worry, I'll recap it for you:

Mayweather fought DLH at 147 lbs. and Hatton at 154 lbs. in '07, then retires. Pacquaio was still fighting and dominating at 130 lbs. at that time, so obviously a matchup wasn't possible at that point. Pacquiao only went up to 135 lbs. in '08 to fight David Diaz, at which point Floyd was still retired. Pac beats DLH at 147 lbs. in '08 and destroys Hatton at Hatton's preferred 140 lbs. limit in mid '09. Pac-PBF demand begins.

Mayweather comes back to fight JMM in a tune-up in late '09, Pacquiao fights Cotto in a legitimate matchup at the same time, those were the hypothetical semi-finals to what should've been the original superfight. Everything went according to plan, but gasp, negotiations fall apart. I think most of us know where we stand at this point w.r.t. who's responsible, so whatever.

Both guys still need to fight. Both pick joke opponents. Clottey for Pacquiao because he gave Cotto a hard time (lol), Mosley for Mayweather because Mayweather acknowledges the fans have wanted to see those two fight for years - which is completely true, except the fight came 3 years too late. You know when Mayweather-Mosley or Mayweather-Cotto would've been great? Early 2008, when both were available and fresh, but Mayweather decided he had nothing left to prove and left the sport to dance with stars and wrestle the Big Show. Good, great, grand.

Both guys win, Cowboys Stadium is available in late 2010 again, Pacquiao says he will fight on the booked date before he goes off to politard it up in the Philippines, negotiations start again and they end again. Mayweather's camp once again disinterested, then Floyd punches his baby's mama. Pacquiao-Mosley was an embarrassment, I will not dispute that, but it also comes to a point where what's Pacquiao supposed to do? Moving down from his mid-140s weight at this point in his career is suicide; any fight he took to keep fresh had to be contested at a weight that would be in the Pac-PBF superfight range. He's not going back down to 140 in his early 30's to fight a Timothy Bradley or Devon Alexander, who did abysmal business themselves in Detroit. And he's cleaned out just about everyone else.

Every time Pacquiao fought a previous Mayweather opponent (aside from Mosley which was just bizarre), he looked more impressive and more dominant. And of course he was going to fight those guys after Mayweather because he was moving up in weight at a later stage in his career. All of those fights were deliberate in their booking by the Pacquiao camp to show their guy would be more than capable of beating Mayweather. They did their job in making their client uber-rich, uber-popular and firing up the megafight hypetrain.

This is why people get disgusted with Mayweather; he has the audacity to suggest the opponents he picks are the guys that his fans actually want to see. He billed this Ortiz fight exactly as such. His camp damn well knows there's only one fight left that anyone cares about, but Mayweather continues to plug his ears and sing lalalalalala in the face of all frustrated fans. Every bad Pacquiao matchup has been made in response to failed Mayweather negotiations, whereas every bad Mayweather matchup has been made in lieu of a greater challenge.

Mayweather is potentially the most talented fighter of all time but he's a pathetic excuse for a superstar ambassador of the sport. Boxing needs his star power and matchmaking potential more than ever, but he doesn't give a ****.

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I think Pac's victory over DLH was one of his best, not partuclarly because of what he did in the ring (although it was an awesome performance, DLH was shot) but for even having the balls to take the fight in the first place. A lot of people have probably forgotten but pretty much all boxing writers were calling it a mis-match in DLH's favour.

I also think Mayweather doesn't get enough credit for the Mosley win as he should for similar reasons (although obviously not on the same level)
I'm a fan of saying "It's not only about who you fight, but when".

I give both guys all the credit in the world for taking these two fights. But in hindsight, they were just two dead men walking.
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morales, jmm and barrera is what pac has built his resume on.

Only the casual-fan put too much value into his 140+ run. It's basically one fight that sticks out from that run, Cotto. Rest is just meh.

With that said, morales, jmm and barrera is each one greater than any win on floyds resume. If we pick out floyds 3 greatest wins it's probably Corrales, Hernandez and Castillo. I could be talked into replacing hernandez with either Hatton or Oscar, but Im not sure.
lol @ morales being pac's most important win
are you erik morales?
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:33 PM   #5500
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the word isn't biased, it's racist
Jesus Christ, get the **** out with this nonsense. Stupidity knows no racial segregation.

There's only one racist party in this entire episode, and it was the guy who recorded a webcam rant about the opponent he refuses to fight.
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