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Old 12-23-2009, 03:51 AM   #401
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

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This is just posturing by Mayweather. He wants to show everybody that he has the upper hand in negotiating and wants to bully Pacquiao. He didn't do this against Judah, Hatton or Baldomir. It isn't fair that a boxer is bullied because of the success he has had in the ring.

Whatever you use will show up after the fight. So, stick with the standard drug testing policy (tested after the fight).

My opinion is that Team Pacquiao should demand that Mayweather pay a large fine if Pac takes a pre-fight test and comes up clean. This is a real bull**** move by Mayweather's team.
Do you actually have knowledge of the effectiveness of different types of testing and the techniques to avoid detection, or are you just talking out of your ass again?
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:14 AM   #402
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Pacquiao's promoter: 2010 'fight is off' with Mayweather

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...pacquiao_N.htm

Reached late Tuesday night, Bob Arum of Top Rank, which promotes the Filipino, took it a step further.

"The plug is pulled. The fight is off as far as we're concerned," he said, adding that he expects Pacquiao to fight on that date but is seeking a new opponent.

"All they're doing is harassing Pacquiao. I'm not going to allow it to happen," Arum said. "We're willing to do urine analysis at random even though we don't have to do it under Nevada rules. … I know deep down Mayweather doesn't want the fight. He can take a walk."
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:15 AM   #403
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Re: Pacquiao's promoter: 2010 'fight is off' with Mayweather

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Old 12-23-2009, 04:15 AM   #404
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Re: Pacquiao's promoter: 2010 'fight is off' with Mayweather

ooops can a mod move this to the other thread
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:16 AM   #405
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Re: Pacquiao's promoter: 2010 'fight is off' with Mayweather

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Old 12-23-2009, 04:31 AM   #406
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Re: Pacquiao's promoter: 2010 'fight is off' with Mayweather

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Old 12-23-2009, 04:34 AM   #407
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Where did I say I did have that knowledge?

Yes, blood tests are considered more effective. They are also way more expensive. Is the additional effectiveness enough to offset the cost? What drugs can be seen in a urine test, but not a blood test?

And get off my ****ing nuts.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:43 AM   #408
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Re: Pacquiao's promoter: 2010 'fight is off' with Mayweather

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dear god, plz no.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:43 AM   #409
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Re: Pacquiao's promoter: 2010 'fight is off' with Mayweather

Bob Arum is a *****. Enough said. I'm happy to privately go into detail
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:44 AM   #410
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

WTF is this about fight being off?
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:06 AM   #411
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Yes, blood tests are considered more effective. They are also way more expensive. Is the additional effectiveness enough to offset the cost? What drugs can be seen in a blood test, but not a urine test?
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:07 AM   #412
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Re: Pacquiao's promoter: 2010 'fight is off' with Mayweather

This is all bull****. There's too much money involved for this not to happen.

And if it actually doesn't happen, it'll just show sports fans how much of a joke boxing has become.
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:18 AM   #413
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Manny agreed to have the blood test before the press conference in Jan. or after the fight so I don't see that the problem is. If the fight gets called off because of this that's just sad.

I thought "Money" Mayweather only cared about money. Now he's going to call off the fight and $50 million because Pacquaio won't take the blood test when Mayweather wants?
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:42 AM   #414
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

I think they will reach some deal with the blood testing (probably a week before + an hour or so after the fight) and the fight will be back on.

Arum saying the fight is off is probably just a negotiation tactic.
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:38 AM   #415
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Yes, blood tests are considered more effective. They are also way more expensive. Is the additional effectiveness enough to offset the cost?
Wait.. you think anyone involved in a $100MM+ fight is worried about the lab expenses for blood tests?

HAHAHAHHAA
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:12 AM   #416
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Wait.. you think anyone involved in a $100MM+ fight is worried about the lab expenses for blood tests?

HAHAHAHHAA
You didn't answer my question.
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:21 AM   #417
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

The answer to the question is that I don't know. Then again, I don't get off on the idea of being an internet message board authority. You're the one making these posts:

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Whatever you use will show up after the fight. So, stick with the standard drug testing policy (tested after the fight).
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Yes, blood tests are considered more effective.
You obviously have no idea what techniques can be used to avoid detection based on when and how they are being tested, yet you are so sure that it's nothing but posturing.
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Old 12-23-2009, 08:57 AM   #418
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

Of course I don't know. Never said I did.

I can't imagine this is a way to back out of a fight this big. No point in generating hype as there's already enough of it as it is.

Perhaps it's a leverage tactic. If Pac doesn't want to do it, accusations of using PEDs fly around. If he does, then Mayweather shows that he's able to bully Pacman around.

Arum could also be using the whole "fight won't happen" claim as another negotiation tactic. I cannot imagine a fight this lucrative not happening.
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:26 AM   #419
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

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Where did I say I did have that knowledge?

Yes, blood tests are considered more effective. They are also way more expensive. Is the additional effectiveness enough to offset the cost? What drugs can be seen in a urine test, but not a blood test?

And get off my ****ing nuts.
wtf, are you really going to claim that the cost of the blood test is the reason that there shouldn't be one?

How much could it ****ing cost? They're going to make like $30 million dollars each.
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Old 12-23-2009, 09:55 AM   #420
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

seems like manny should just consent to the tests
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:11 AM   #421
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wtf, are you really going to claim that the cost of the blood test is the reason that there shouldn't be one?
Where did I say that? I just stated a fact and asked a question.

What can I say that won't make people become little bitches here? Seriously, am I that worthy of this excessive scrutiny?
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:19 AM   #422
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This is just posturing. Its not a big deal. Alot of hot air. The fight will go off as planned. Just psychological warfare, common in the fight game.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:27 AM   #423
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

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Where did I say that? I just stated a fact and asked a question.
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Is the additional effectiveness enough to offset the cost?
I really don't think anyone could have seriously considered you were asking that question legitimately. If you honestly thought that cost could have been an issue then there's nothing else to say besides lol.

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What can I say that won't make people become little bitches here? Seriously, am I that worthy of this excessive scrutiny?
Stop taking yourself so seriously. I didn't even read who posted it when I made my comment.
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:48 AM   #424
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Old 12-23-2009, 12:47 PM   #425
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re: SE Boxing Thread (still waiting for PBF v. Pac)

If Mayweather refuses to fight because Manny doesn't agree to his 1243249 extra drug tests that's going to go down as one of the biggest ***** moves in sports history. Manny's already agreed to random urine samples at any time pre or post fight, and blood at the kick off and after the fight. All of that is far above NSAC requirements.

Basically, Floyd is a *****.
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