very true. even if you dont even know what boxing is, you will be aware of who these guys are by the time the fight takes place.

this fight is that big.

with the internet and 5,000 cable stations you wont be able to escape the buildup.

imo, this is bigger.

sad to say, since i loved hagler and went to a stadium to see this fight. (amazing how the whole place was rooting for leonard by the end) this fight is bigger. as great as he was, hagler was not a super mainstream guy, although he was a super super super fighter.

closest i can come to this; in my life time is Ali vs Frazier 1. when an undefeated Ali came out of exile to try and reclaim his crown against an undefeated champ 'smoking' Joe Frazier.

If you want to see something super super... youtube "aaron pryor vs alexis arguello I" when i have a boxing jones, i watch a few rounds of this on youtube. imo, they dont fight like that anymore.

this is just the 1-2 rounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSYo9BixrjU


if we are lucky, pac man vs mayweather will be 1/2 as good of a fight.

this is the biggest fight since ali/frazier 1

maybe the biggest of all time.

Find me another fight in boxing history between the two undisputed, not even remotely close pfp #1 and #2. You'll find a small number. Now also find two that are both at the pinnacle of their careers and the unquestioned two biggest draws in the sport at the moment. I don't think you find any. Add in the contrast of offense vs. defense, the ultimate cocky vs. the ultimate humble, the unimaginable speed of both guys, and it's probably the biggest fight in boxing history.

I don't think that's an exaggeration.

Wow. Is there a simple explanation as to why we don't see fights like that anymore? Probably more action in the first two rounds of that fight than the last 5 fights I've bought on PPV, but it does all look a little cavalier. How do you think those guys would stand up to the technical mastery of Mayweather or Pac?

They'd def give them very good fights.

Sick Arguello-Pryor link.

For me though, nothing will ever top Hagler-Hearns round 1. GOAT.

It may be hard for people these days to appreciate just how big Ali/Frazier I was. You wouldn't have gotten a casual question back then as to who Muhammad Ali was. The prestige of the Heavyweight Championship of the World was supreme in sports. And here was a fight between two undefeated champions both in or near their primes with the fight a legitimate dispute over who the undisputed champion should be.

Everybody was interested. Everybody cared. The backstory was better than fiction. Ali was stripped of his title for protesting a war that half the people in the country ended up protesting. Ali stood up for his race in a way that half the people hated and half the people cheered. Hell, it took the god damn supreme court to allow Ali back in the ring. Ali/Frazier I was one of those rare sporting events that transcended sport. It embodied the historic clash of cultures that had been wrenching the country and resounding around the world for more than a decade.

As a boxing event for boxing fans Pacquiao-Mayweather might compare with Ali-Frazeir I, although I doubt it. As an Event it's not in the same stadium.


PairTheBoard

+1

Also,

I'd rather be Floyd than Manny for the obvious reason that Floyd is likely to have a bigger penis.

I think they would match up very well, especially pryor. I think Pac and Mayweather beat Arguello If (its a BIG if) they could withstand getting hit on the button with picture perfect straight right hands. ( the right hands arguello was hitting pryor with kos everyone i have ever seen him fight, except pryor) How Pryor withstood those shots, still amazes me to this day.

Pryor would be a nightmare for both Pac man and Mayweather. you cant keep him off of you (not that much moving in the world) you cant hurt him and he does not tire nor stop throwing punches. I think Pryor sets a pace that mayweather or pac man can't withstand especially over 15 rounds.

pryor would challenge both men more than either has ever been challenged so far in their careers and imo beats both of them.


very well said.

from everything i have seen and read about this fight it was amazing. imagine how big it would be in the media saturated world we live in today.

Another thing that seems strange about boxing is all the talk about "pound for pound". Where does this come from?

You don't hear linebackers or pitchers being described relative to their bodyweight. Why not who is the best fighter period?

Also, isn't their some some scrawny 110 pound boxer somewhere who prolly really is the best "P4P"?

P4P is just a name, it isn't supposed to be taken literally.

It is just the designation for the best boxer in the world, ignoring that a mediocre heavyweight would destroy a great flyweight in an actual fight due to sheer power.

well, judging by this thread, it seems P4P will be used a lot to hype this fight.

Because they are the best two fighters in the world relative to their weight classes.

If I remember correctly, Aaron Pryor got penalized for taking substances. It was very controversial and very unfair to Arguello.

As of today, they don't have a title for it yet. But yeah. "Pound for Pound" would probably in the title of what this fight will be called.

This is the first truly global fight since Louis-Schmelling. When was the last huge fight that pitted two fighters from opposite sides of the world?

Pryor-Arguello was between two fighters in the Americas. Same with Whitaker and Chavez. This Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is probably the most global since Louis-Schmelling unless I'm missing something.

between one of the rounds, one of pryor's corner man asked for a bottle of water. when he was handed the bottle he replied "not that bottle the one i mixed." they did not do a drug test after the fight so, it is in dispute what was actually in the bottle. the cornerman, panama lewis claims the bottle contained nothing illegal and was a mixture to control pryor's diahrea.

i think since 1. pryor was never caught cheating 2. he was always good 3. he knocked out arguello much easier in the rematch, what happened in the corner did not diminish his performance in most people's eyes.

plus, arguello never brought it up and refused to use that as a possible excuse for his defeat.

ya but panama lewis has a reputation for cheating and is banned from working corners (put plaster in one of his fighters gloves...opponent's face, an undefeated young prospect, was wrecked and he committed suicide a year later)...aka very good chance whatever was in the bottle included something illegal

just looked up lewis on wiki - what a piece of **** - amazing he can still train, but i guess boxing can't regulate who trains a fighter.

amazing what goes on in boxing

meh, banning him from being in a corner is severe enough...combined with his prison sentence

I see what you say about Hagler, I was just a kid back then, but I remember him being billed as the villain vs Leonard (at least the way my dad saw the fight). My dad was a big Leonard fan. Funny thing is that as grew older, I found that I loved the way Hagler and Duran fought and, in turn, liked them a lot as fighters.

I actually have the Pryor vs Arguello fight downloaded, haven't watched it fully yet, maybe tonight...

RIP Arguello

If you're interested in the full fight download for Pryor vs Arguello, check the first link here:
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&so...meta=&aq=f&oq=

You'll find a lot of other classic fights too.

Very good post by PairtheBoard above - this will be the biggest fight in years, but isn't even close to Ali/Frazier. Ali was just in a different league than Manny or PBF as a star, heavyweights always draw the most interest, and boxing was more popular then. It really isn't even close.

Speaking of Ali Frazier did anyone see the documentary on HBO about their rivalry? One of the best things i have ever seen. I am too young to know anything about their trilogy but that documentary was amazing. A must watch for boxing fans.

Shocking to see Mayweather predicting a ko

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8402982.stm

I watched it a couple weeks ago and agree it was very good.