At the time I was wondering how hot he was underneath that costume. Seemed like a dumb idea but it didn't cover every inch of his body so I figured there might be some ventilation.

As for the weight, you wouldn't think 40lbs would do that to a grown man. I carried far more than that on my back when I was a small 100lb kid. That being said, have you seen Wilder's chicken legs?

Let the guy die in the ring if that’s what he wants.

Right?

Yea, that’s right.

I agree with above. I was rooting for/ had money on wilder and that point deduction was comical. I felt a warning would be better served.

And I do think something was wrong with wilder. He def looked like his legs were shot so I kinda buy the costume excuse however dude you shouldn’t lose a fight or have something affect you negatively before a huge career defining fight. Ugh so stupid by wilder.

They already received a warning

The inability or unwillingness tovlearn basic footowrk and thevlike isva mental issue.

Point deduction was refchelping the champ, give him a point, and more important, some time to breathe.

His legs were shot because he took a shot behind the ear.

I like wilder at 3-1 if the 3rd fight happens. Think this was like worst case scenario for him and the ruptured ear drum made him look worse than he is. Not sure anyone is more than like 2 to 1 to avoid getting touched by his right hand for the duration of the fight and when that happens the fight is over ~90%of the time. Plus there's the (slim) chance this experience gets him to actually learn to box a bit between now and then.

Given that he blames it on both his costume and his coach (for stopping the fight), i doubt he will learn anything from this fight.

Wilder hasn't "learned to box" because he started late (age 20) not because he hasn't busted his ass at the gym. A few months of training won't make a difference.

Joshua started at 18.

This. I was hoping he'd be humble and take this as a turning point to really focus on things he likely took for granted (like always having the eraser punch in his back pocket to bail him out of holes), but instead he's just making up super weak excuses and sounds like he's in denial.

Since Joshua has at least one mandatory he needs to enforce or lose a belt, I think Fury Wilder III is the best we can hope for here.

I kinda feel like Arum will milk Fury for a few more tuneups/weak fights after this to cash-in and setup Fury Joshua for fall 2021, assuming they both make it that long. I hope the prospect of a massive fight changes that. It certainly worked for Fury Wilder II, but it was a huge gamble in my opinion that just turned out perfectly for Top Rank/ESPN/Fury. Fury could've easily lost his last fight vs a fairly limited opponent, we shouldn't forget that and act like he's invincible. Wilder also has a style that looks terrible until it suddenly isn't and he wins the fight, so let's also not forget that. 3-1 rematch odds sound about right.

There will be a ton of talk about Wilder's mentality and all that ****. He didn't get KTFO and he'll continue to believe his corner shouldn't have called it (and honestly he's been hurt as badly before, but not vs an opponent that had so much energy left like this, it was a great stoppage). I think the third fight will be Fury winning every round unless Wilder lands a big shot. That's literally how it's been the first 19 rounds so far. We heard so much of that with Joshua too, and I never saw a hint of a fragile mentality. Guys like Lennox Lewis talk bout it too, but really how many top fighters lose their 0 and then are fragile? We hear it anytime a fighter loses for the first time or gets KTFO (remember Manny after Marquez? They kept talking about it, clearly he wasn't afraid lol, he adjusted his style to a more sustainable less blind risk one). I think it's as overstated as the vaunted "clutch hitting" in baseball was for years.

18 is kinda old too. Most boxers that become great start at ~10-15.

18 and 20 is really old. But power/size can make up for lack of skill at heavyweight.

Only Sergio Martinez and Bernard Hopkins did it at lower weights. Martinez could have been a professional footballer if he wanted so was obviously already a fantastic athlete, and Hopkins was likely boxing on the streets his whole childhood

Fury should fight Whyte before Joshua.

No. He's an idiot in boxing terms and has made no effort to master basic skills. Getting all sculpted is irrelevant in boxing (look at fury). Compare someone like mike tyson with similar power — his punching technique was superlative and his footwork was very good before he gotblazy.

Frazier would beat Fury, right? Odds?

No.

If that was the best I could do technically after 14 years of busting my ass the gym I'd want my money back from my trainer.

Pretty sure he got his money back and then some

I see Amir Khan has taken one too many punches to the head as he thinks COVID19 is caused by 5G towers.

Pretty interesting article from the other end of the sport

Looking for a DVD collection of Ring magazine fights of the year for the last 20 years. Does it exist?

Any suggestions otherwise? Can't find a list without the results included, so hard to find them individually without having the fun spoiled

Highly doubt it. Too many different rights holders to get an agreement to produce it.

So apparently Mike Tyson is planning a come back to the boxing ring.