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12-01-2018 , 01:26 PM
Also, there aren't any pubs around me showing the Wilder/Fury fight since it's on at 4 AM
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12-01-2018 , 01:31 PM
ill have a look at that curry one at some pt

lennox vs golota another good one for commentary, there was 40 mins of buildup about how golota will win, and then the fight started and there was another 60 seconds of how golota will win, and then lennox punches him in the face repeatedly for 15 seconds and the fight is over
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12-01-2018 , 02:20 PM
Most lol commentary ever



Love how quickly they backtrack after the unexpected occurs. They looked like idiots.
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12-01-2018 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
If Fury is even close to his best then he causes Wilder all kinds of problems.

The biggest issue is whether Fury has taken this fight way too soon on his return from being out for so long.

If Ortiz's boxing ability and footwork caused Wilder problems then Fury will cause him way more.

Absolutely no way Ortiz has better boxing fundamentals than Fury.

If Fury is close to his best then he just outboxes Wilder and mauls him into submission down the stretch.
I think you’re massively underrating how good Ortiz is. We will never know cuz he is probably 50 years old so it’s just shooting the **** with the eye test but I wouldn’t have put him any more than a slight underdog to anyone in the world a couple years ago personally. I think he was elite
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12-01-2018 , 03:29 PM
Here is my prefight analysis and prediction For Wilder vs. Fury: https://masterclassboxing.blogspot.c...lysis-and.html

I'll be watching the fight at a bar in my area that's showing the fight with no cover. I think it'll be a pretty good fight but no way I'd pay $75 for this LOL...
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12-01-2018 , 03:35 PM
Gonna be a shame when wilder knocks fury out and everyone just shrugs and blames it on fury not being in shape or whatever. Fury isn’t some generational talent he beat an old Klitschko in one of the worst fights I can remember. I think his gift of gab makes people overrate him. We will see soon enough I will eat crow if he puts on a master class tonight. It’s within realm of possibility but I just don’t consider his win v Klitschko as impressive as most people I suppose

What I don’t want to see tonigbt is a wilder robbery on the cards. If fury outboxes him I hope he doesn’t get screwed but I think it’s possible he does

Last edited by mutigers; 12-01-2018 at 03:40 PM.
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12-01-2018 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by crystalcitygangsta
Here is my prefight analysis and prediction For Wilder vs. Fury: https://masterclassboxing.blogspot.c...lysis-and.html

I'll be watching the fight at a bar in my area that's showing the fight with no cover. I think it'll be a pretty good fight but no way I'd pay $75 for this LOL...
This is really good stuff you write well bro. I’ll def read more of your blog in the future.
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12-01-2018 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mutigers
I think you’re massively underrating how good Ortiz is. We will never know cuz he is probably 50 years old so it’s just shooting the **** with the eye test but I wouldn’t have put him any more than a slight underdog to anyone in the world a couple years ago personally. I think he was elite
I actually thought he was a favorite against Wilder. Big southpaw with serious KO power and good counter punching. Figured him as a nightmare for Wilder. He was winning that fight though the cards did not reflect it.
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Gonna be a shame when wilder knocks fury out and everyone just shrugs and blames it on fury not being in shape or whatever. Fury isn’t some generational talent he beat an old Klitschko in one of the worst fights I can remember. I think his gift of gab makes people overrate him. We will see soon enough I will eat crow if he puts on a master class tonight. It’s within realm of possibility but I just don’t consider his win v Klitschko as impressive as most people I suppose

What I don’t want to see tonigbt is a wilder robbery on the cards. If fury outboxes him I hope he doesn’t get screwed but I think it’s possible he does
Yeah people always ****ting on Wilder for one reason of another. They're just Fury/AJ fanboys. It'll never be enough for them to consider Deontay the best in the division.

A decision robbery for Wilder would be unsurprising. Tyson lands more punches while Wilder lands the eye-catching shots that squeak out enough rounds for a British boxing type of decision.
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12-01-2018 , 04:32 PM
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Load of money coming for Fury in the last 24 hours.
Complete turnaround now, all the money for Wilder.
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12-01-2018 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mutigers
This is really good stuff you write well bro. I’ll def read more of your blog in the future.
I highly recommend checking out the blog, really good stuff written very well

From a boxing perspective, what role does Fury's age play? The last few years haven't been good to him but he's still only 30. Is it more about the ring rust?

Wilder's mental strength and previous experience vs highly skilled boxers are impressive, but I'm guessing he's always had a huge reach advantage. I think the chances of Fury folding in-fight are pretty low after all he's been through, given that he got here. The tuneups vs bums are concerning but it should be a good fight. I don't know **** though so I'll bet small.
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12-01-2018 , 07:01 PM
Idk about previous experience v highly skilled boxers lol. Ortiz is the only person he has beaten who isn’t a bum really. But like you can say the exact same thing for fury besides Klitschko. Just the nature of the garbage depth in heavyweights. I think the pulev Povetkin hughie fury whyte Chisora Jennings tier is okay but after that it’s real trash. I don’t think anyone cares about fury’s age heavyweights last a long time usually it’s his horrid lifestyle and lack of fighting anyone with a pulse for three years now

In other news the Stevenson gvodyk fight is in 90 minutes. Really good fignt I think Stevenson is like +150. Should be some fireworks in this one

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12-01-2018 , 07:54 PM
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Also, there aren't any pubs around me showing the Wilder/Fury fight since it's on at 4 AM
Casinos, open 24/7?
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12-01-2018 , 08:06 PM
JRock fighting an 8 rounder on an undercard. What a fall from championship contender.

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 12-01-2018 at 08:08 PM. Reason: Okay 10 rounder but still who is his opponent?
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12-01-2018 , 08:13 PM
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I still remember this fight. The collective shock was unprecedented.
full fight

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12-01-2018 , 08:33 PM
Marsellos Wilder tries to fight like his brother but doesn't have the athleticism, power, chin, or experience to do it well. Got rocked by a tomato in the first round.
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12-01-2018 , 09:09 PM
I got random Ukrainian beating Adonis by KO.
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12-01-2018 , 09:09 PM
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Gotta keep in mind that although the scorecards didn't show it, Ortiz was fighting a winning the fight against Wilder until he got knocked out. He was giving Wilder fits early in the fight with his counter punching style. He is vulnerable against out-boxers. Given that Tyson Fury is just that, it is a perfect matchup.

Tyson is of course known for his endurance and awkward style that can keep opponents guessing. Everything he does is designed to keep power punchers like Wilder and Klitschko at bay while he builds a lead on the cards. If he returns to form, I don't see Wilder having more than a puncher's chance to take the fight.

That said, I don't see that happening. I don't care what diet you go on or how hard you work out, you can't come back from a cocaine addiction, being 375 lbs, serious psychological problems and be the same guy you were 3 years ago. For all we know with Tyson's mental state, he has some kind of nervous breakdown or stops giving a **** if Wilder keeps the fight close.

People give Wilder **** for swinging out of control and having no fundamentals. While he is lacking a bit in the latter, the swinging out of control accusation is really exaggerated. He only does that when it's clear that he hurt his opponent. If you look at his fights now compared to earlier in his career, he's become far more patient and disciplined. He also never seems to think he's out of a fight. Wilder was clearly losing to Ortiz but never lost confidence in himself. That mental strength is a huge benefit to him.

I really don't necessarily think we're looking at a fight of the year here. It is still an interesting fight to see. I think it goes similar to Wilder/Ortiz. Tyson ahead on the cards due to outboxing Wilder early but gets knocked out late.
Let's be honest, he was probably doing coke throughout his career and he clearly had mental issues prior to the Wlad fight. Gaining 35-40% extra weight is a lot, but it's not like he looked like Wilder's physique when he fought Wlad. He didn't go from 2% body fat to 40% and then back or anything. It's impressive and all, maybe he's lost a step due to it, but the story is really being laid on thick for this one, mostly by Eddie Hearn who didn't want this fight to happen (so he talks about how Fury isn't ready and it's a bad idea, he should wait *and fight Joshua in 2019 lol*) and then in the week or two lead up the promoters really dramatize Fury's story.

Old Wlad was a lot slower than Wilder, and Fury is much better dancing around than Ortiz, but I think Ortiz is the superior boxer, that's the difference in my mind at least.

Ortiz was definitely ahead in my mind in that fight, but it's a 12 rounder. A 6 round fight would be more interesting, I think Wilder still probably wins (would be a lot more aggressive in half the time), but closer to even in my eyes.

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12-01-2018 , 09:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZu...ature=youtu.be Free legal Showtime stream, Stevenson Gvozdyk, oldest champ vs a very legit challenger.
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12-01-2018 , 09:16 PM
Nail comes off as pretty clumsy in the ring. He's also giving Stevenson way too much respect.
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12-01-2018 , 09:21 PM
Haha @ Atlas in Gvozdyk's corner, that can't be helping. Atlas is the Joe Morgan of boxing.
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12-01-2018 , 09:24 PM
Yup. But that should've been a knockdown.
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12-01-2018 , 09:26 PM
Yea, should be even right now, WHY DOES BOXING NOT HAVE REPLAY FOR KNOCKDOWNS?
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12-01-2018 , 09:29 PM
I gave Nail 3-5. But he ain't doing much damage. I suspect he's heading towards a hometown decision for Adonis.
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12-01-2018 , 09:36 PM
Stevenson is in trouble if he starts to fade here.
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12-01-2018 , 09:37 PM
Superman's gassing. He did this against Badou Jack. I don't think he landed more than a single body shot in the 6th.
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