That'd be great. I don't think we'd see a snoozer with Wilder though. He strikes me as a go for broke guy at some point if behind. And Ortiz probably has too much boxing skill for Wilder to be dominating on points for 12 rounds (wild card is loljudges though).

I don't care what anyway says about being vulnerable etc, Wilder is terrifying. I'm probably the only person who thinks this but I'm not sure that even Joshua is a significant favourite over him - looks close to 50:50.

Not convinced Joshua takes those Wilder right hands on his big hippo chin. Likewise Wilder will look like a rag doll if Joshua catches him clean. Lets hope AJ comes through the Parker fight so we can see it.

Part of me thinks Parker will cause Joshua more problems than Wilder.

Joshua pummels Wilder into next week imo.

Looks like Wilder has a better chin than AJ tho.

The market has Parker at about 13%. That may even be generous - I struggle to see any way he can win barring something freakish (esp with the judges likely favouring Joshua if it's in any way close). Wilder on the other hand, must have a huge chance surely.

Im not sure were this idea comes from tbh.

Sure Joshua got rocked by White when he got sloppy and put down heavily against Klitschko but he seemed to recover fairly quickly and came back to win.

I have major doubts Wilder takes the kind of shot Klitschko caught Joshua with.

Wilder does not get hit that often with big shots but when he does it has a real affect ... he would have been out of there last night if that round had another minute left.

Once Joshua lands a couple of big shots then he puts Wilder away imo.

I do not think Parker will beat Joshua but i think he has the style to cause Joshua a few problems but eventually Joshua will get to him.

I just dont see Wilder causing Joshua that many issues tbh ... defensively he is all over the place at times and see him being wide open to huge counters from Joshua.

Yeah it's possible that Parker may make Joshua look ordinary for a while, but not in the sense that anyone thinks he's got a decent chance to win. It may be that, some of the time, Joshua outclasses Wilder and looks great but Wilder surely has a chance as long as he in in there. (Though, personally, in the US anyway I don't think it's a given that Joshua wins on points if it goes that far.)

FWIW I think they've both got OK chins. Not like Ali or Holmes obviously, but heavyweights are monsters these days. Vlad K was regarded as a bit chinny, Lennox Lewis lost twice to a single punch, but they are all time greats. I'm sure Ali and Holmes would be freaks in any era, but I wonder how many of the durable fighters from past eras would look so impregnable against the monsters that rule the roost now.

What about Fury - if he gets back to as he was, what are his chances against Wilder? FWIW I think he'd win rounds that finish with the bell, but sooner or later he's get clocked.

There is also the factor of the weight difference.

Im interested to see what weight Joshua comes in against Parker but Wilder came in at 214lbs and thats over 30lbs difference to Joshua.

If Wilder comes in that weight hoping to outbox Joshua then he's going to come unstuck big style.

Im not even sure Fury will come back even close to what he was against Klitschko but i hope so.

I think a peak Fury would wear down Wilder in the later rounds or just make him look silly over 12 rounds but im guessing tbh.

Wilder isn't gonna outbox anybody. He should beef up and focus on throwing haymakers since that's basically all he does anyway.

AJ is younger, faster and more powerful than Ortiz. Essentially he is a step up over Ortiz in every facet of the sport. AJ also proved to have a pretty strong chin and recovers quickly from knockdowns. He'll be way better at countering punches than Ortiz due to that quickness.

AJ is gonna win by knockout imo. That said Wilder always has a chance to win due to his power.

This is the guy who thinks he can beat Rooney's Tyson? How, by endlessly windmilling him with his tentacles behind the ears? Amazing how much confidence KO'ing a bunch of terrified taxi drivers can give you.

It is pretty entertaining to watch, I'll admit to that.

Credit where credit's due, Wilder showed he is a worthy champ last night. I had him down by five points, but he showed huge self-belief to not even try to win rounds (I refuse to accept the bizarre judges cards).

He has a chin, fantastic athletic ability and has a punchers chance vs anybody. Its only a matter of time before his lack of boxing ability gets found out tho.

He's about 10 times more dangerous to Joshua than Parker, but Joshua should beat both.

Amazing how so many people are finding ways to **** on Deontay.

Every time he succeeds his critics move the goalposts further away from him. Even if he beats AJ by knocking him out cold in the first round they'll think of him as a phony.

A guy who's willing to go to Moscow to fight Povetkin isn't afraid of anybody.

Agree Bob, he's a breath of fresh air in some ways.

He really isn't afraid of anyone, but was held back a bit until fairly recently. This seemed to be more his handlers than him and him being prepared to travel to fight Povetkin proved it really. Big scary dudes with complete and utter self belief are dangerous.

Who is ****ting on Wilder? This thread seems to be giving him deserved respect, and I even saw a boxing writer on fb that admitted Wilder made him eat his own words and he deserves props for a legitimate win.

Is Wilder vs Joshua happening? That would be a cool fight.

Potentially next if Joshua gets through Parker although there was some talk that Joshua would fight Jarrell Miller in America next, providing Miller gets past Duhaupas in April.

Because he can't get a decision just like he will not lose on in NY?

Wilder is good. Probably less good than i thought before this fight.. don't forget, he was a 3:1 or 4:1 favorite, but still top3 in the world.

I was talking in general (other internet forums, comments from casual fans etc)

If Joshua beats Parker then he just has to fight Wilder next, there is absolutely no reason why this fight should not happen.

The only obstacle is Hearn being scared of his cash cow losing and bottling it.

I'd put Joshua as a solid favorite over Wilder.

He may be, but other than Vlad has Joshua ever been anything other than a huge favourite? He can be 15-1 on and still make huge money. I wouldn't put it past Hearn to delay taking on Wilder for a couple of fights.

Joshua/Wilder is gonna be drawn out the same way Manny/Floyd was. It's easier for them to make more money separate than fighting each other.

Wilder prob ends up fighting Dillian Whyte while AJ takes on Miller.