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12-11-2018 , 07:13 PM
I think he does some pre-interviewing just before the show, and Wilder didn't make a good impression trying to make his point, so he just decided to let it slide during the show as to not make him look terrible.
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12-11-2018 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
I think he does some pre-interviewing just before the show, and Wilder didn't make a good impression trying to make his point, so he just decided to let it slide during the show as to not make him look terrible.


That was my take on it too
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12-11-2018 , 07:53 PM
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Another issue with JRE is that he has too many shows. Effectively preparing for a 3 hour interview with a different person every weekday is extremely difficult. I mean to do a good interview, you really need to research your guests in advance and there's no way Joe has the time to do that.
Louie Theroux was trying to give him tips 2 years ago, if I remember correctly.

Tbh being from the UK & not that into MMA that's difficult, thou when that J.Diaz is on he has some ****ed up stories lol.

Hopefully Joshua is next.
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12-11-2018 , 08:05 PM
Yeah but how many of CoCo's stories are real? I guess you could say it doesn't matter. Jerry Seinfeld does jokes about taxis but has a limo waiting for him after each show.

But I'd be really disappointed if a good chunk of Joey's stories ended up being bull**** because the guy is incredibly hilarious.
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12-11-2018 , 09:46 PM
Rogan's issue is that he's dumb.

He's smart enough to know that he's dumb, but he's still dumb. He's basically a guy that wonders into Politics and gets swayed by every looney post that the crazies have been kicking around in their echo chamber for years amonst themselves (Jamie, look that up). A guy like Jordan Peterson can talk for an hour, say nothing, and just blow Joe's mind.

He doesn't push back on all but the craziest **** (he does a decent job on someone like Candice Owens) and rarely asks the follow up question. He's never going to be the guy that asks hard hitting questions because that's not his gig. He enjoys talking to cool people and he's not going to **** that up.
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12-11-2018 , 09:49 PM
^@SUB. I've done the nightshift in my time so I tend to believe him, lmao.

@RT To be fair that's 99.99% of showbizz problems. Not asking the Q's we really want.
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12-11-2018 , 10:04 PM
Right. And he can't even really conduct SUB's mock interview because it basically goes:

Joe: What happened?

DW: I did a bunch of stuff that the announcers didn't give me credit for

Joe: Like what?

DW: [Here's where **** goes off the rails because DW didn't and anything he says will either be wrong or nonsense]

Joe: ...

It's an interview with a guy that thinks he won a fight but the overwhelming number of observers believe he lost handily. That interview is going to get contentious if Joe tries to push it very far.

Joe basically just has to let DW punch himself out with his bull**** here. Pick your spots and try and get some decent answers on the less sore spots.
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12-12-2018 , 09:23 AM
did you guys catch the buster douglas 30/30 last night ? ESPN showed the fight after too
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12-12-2018 , 05:52 PM
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What Happened

Wilder: I was doing great things that the commentators didn't point out.
Joe: *nods*

What Should Have Happened

Wilder: I was doing great things that the commentators didn't point out.
Joe: Tell me about a time that you did something great that the commentators didn't point out. I wonder if I missed something because of the commentary.

Another way is to not critique the person yourself, but merely relay valid points that other people made. That way you aren't making the accusation. You're only saying what others have said.
Even if he does that, Wilder's handlers are smarter than him, and if Wilder looks like an idiot in the interview it'll hit headlines and Joe will lose access.

RT put it well, Joe just wants to interview cool people and nothing will stand in the way of that.

Also, many people just want to listen to cool people talk, they don't necessarily want hard hitting questions out of their athletes, especially since they are so biased on matters that concern things like scoring in their own fights. There are certainly others that want to ask Tiger Woods over and over why he's friendly with Donald Trump, but definitely a large group of people that would rather hear about what Tiger does on his off days, gambling on the course type stories and that's the area Joe fills.

Also, I felt Fury won clearly, but man, there were way more Wilder scorecards (and draws) than I thought. From media scoring the fight was closer than GGG Canelo 1 and Ward Kovalev 1, like more people thought GGG and Kovalev won those fights respectively than Fury did. That surprised me some in the aftermath, but maybe I/we credited Fury's shots a little more than we should've? The key to me was Wilder not doing anything in many rounds outside of over swinging.

Wlad fight was a little more of "Fury's not doing **** but Wlad is doing less than ****, Fury is squeeking by a decision in this one" to me.

Also, has any proof emerged of Wilder's broken arm before the fight? Obviously sounds suspect, but if true, very impressive (and not super surprising given the payday at stake).
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12-12-2018 , 07:56 PM
His timeline for allegedly breaking his hand occurred like 12 weeks before training camp even started I think. Not a doctor here but doubt it meant much even if true
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12-13-2018 , 01:40 PM
Injury sounds like bull****. Manny pulled the same thing with the torn rotator cuff excuse. You went in there, you fought. If the injury was that bad, the fight would have been postponed.
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12-14-2018 , 02:29 AM
Here is my prefight analysis and betting prediction for Canelo vs. Rocky (headed to NYC this morning for the weigh-in and will be at the fight tomorrow): https://masterclassboxing.blogspot.c...-prefight.html
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12-14-2018 , 01:04 PM
Lemieux out of his undercard due to dehydration from trying to make weight

So now no Lemieux no Daniel du bois no Vergil Ortiz

Undercard went from somewhat interesting to utter trash in a week span
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12-14-2018 , 01:07 PM
Pepe needs to move up to 168. Maybe he can get lucky and we can all root for him v zurdo Ramirez and his boring ass


Speaking of which I guess his rematch with hart is tonight. I don’t really care but the first fight was entertaining and close
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12-14-2018 , 01:36 PM
Lemieux and Dubois didn't fight too long ago. Surprising that the turnaround is so quick, at least for Lemieux.
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12-15-2018 , 12:25 AM
Good fight through two again these guys matchup really well Hart is the only guy zurdo has been in with where I haven’t been falling asleep
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12-15-2018 , 01:09 AM
Wow close fight. 114 draw, 115-113 x2 for Ramirez

Ramirez hurt his left elbow and was basically one handed for last four rounds. All came to the 12th and hart blew it he got his ass beat in the 12th by a one handed fighter
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12-15-2018 , 01:36 AM
Hart has never really looked particularly sound in the ring. Or well at least in the fights I've seen of his. Seems to be a B-level fighter.
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12-15-2018 , 01:52 AM
Ramirez said he is moving up to 175 after fight

Good move I don’t think he is as good as those guys but there is nothing at 168 and he can prove me wrong and make a lot of money doing it. Has zero star equity at 168 but could have some at 175 if he’s better than I think he is
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12-15-2018 , 08:00 AM
Ramirez v Smith?
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12-15-2018 , 06:01 PM
Ramirez is second tier at 175. Bivol could make pretty easy work of him.
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12-16-2018 , 12:34 AM
Is anybody watching Canelo vs Fielding ?
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12-16-2018 , 12:50 AM
Lol fielding exchanging in the short distance.
This will be over before the end of the third round imo.
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12-16-2018 , 12:58 AM
It was over before the end of the third round.
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12-16-2018 , 01:21 AM
I’m relatively impressed that Brian Kenny and Chris mannix kept it real tonight instead of being complete DAZN stans. Low bar but still I think they were fair about Canelo and didn’t slobber all over him and his options. Obv he looked good as expected tonight but I’m glad they didn’t try to push some horse **** fight on us next. Jacobs Canelo is a perfectly good May 4 bout I hope that happens it’s easy to make

Jacobs Andrade GGG Charlo smith I guess ( 1% of this happening imo he’s not staying at 168) are only acceptable options for me really within reason. Tonight was a garbage fight but I’m okay with it after GGG 2 it’s fine but you can’t have 2 in a row when you have options on DAZN at 160 IMO. We riot if it’s lemeieux somehow lol

Canelo should beat Jacobs but Jacobs is a dog who brings the heat in big fights imo and I don’t think I would put him as more than about a 3 or 4-1 dog to Canelo and he deserves a shot after his last win and close (to me) GGG fight

Last edited by mutigers; 12-16-2018 at 01:28 AM.
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